mr..bean said:
What other countries does it work for? Does a proud, independent Scotland really see itself as the next Montenegro or Vatican City?!
Countries with a currency union:
euro - Austria, Belgium, Cyprus, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Portugal, Slovakia, Slovenia, and Spain - (there is a central bank and a very complicated hierarchy, involving respresentation by more than one party for the majority of countries e.g Germany 3, France 3, UK 2, Italy 4, etc. If Scotland were to create a currency union with rUK it would have some control, and be a lot less complicated than the Euro.)
CFA Franc - West African CFA Franc and Central African CFA Franc are two seperate but interchangeable currencies used in Africa which are guaranteed by the French treasury and used by Benin, Burkina Faso, Cote d'Ivoire, Guinea-Bissau, Mali, Niger, Senegal, Togo, Cameroon, Central African Republic, Chad, Republic of the Congo, Equatorial Guinea, and Gabon.
East Caribbean Dollar - currency used by 8 of the 9 Caribbean states and pegged to the USD, used by Antigua & Barbuda, Dominica, Grenada, St Kitts & the Nevis, St Lucia, and St Vincent & the Grenadines.
Countries that exclusively use foreign currency:
Aussie Dollar - Nauru - big player on the world market
Euro - Andorra, Kosovo, Monaco, Montenegro, San Marino, and Vatican City - do we want to be the next? Not sure I see how that works, we're already bigger in size, population, import/export.
Swiss Franc - Liechtenstein - joking aside for Nauru I think we can safely say this is a powerhouse in world economy with the single highest gdp per person in the world and has unemployment rates of 1.5%
USD - El Salvador, Marshall Islands, Micronesia, and Palau - are we limited by "being the next" one of these too? The point was it works for them, not are they bigger than they are.
Pula/ZAR/USD/GBP - Zimbabwe accepts all 4 of these.
There's many more but I think that's enough.
I actually fear for Scotland either way. Whatever happens a 2% winning margin on either side will mean carnage. Plus do we know which side of the argument people are? If all the money and brains in Scotland are on the 'No' side and they all leave in the event of a 'Yes' vote then that won't be good for Scotland. I only actually know one person who get's to vote this week and he lives in Edinburgh.
Oh come on, carnage indeed. You're talking about a country that held peaceful protests when the landlords made massive increases to rent for the families of men off fighting in the trenches of WWI. Again in 1920 when the General Strike took place we held demonstrations while White Russian, Bolsheviks and Mensheviks were running around tearing strips out of each other, which is what the UK government feared here. We have a history of voting and not getting our way without throwing our toys out the pram, why would this be different?
If all the money and brains are on the No side? Says who? Are you calling me a thick pauper? What if they leave? Were you drunk when you wrote that?
Was there any significance to knowing someone from Edinburgh who has a vote? Seemed very random, but thanks for letting me know. I probably know him.
I just hope Scotland end up getting whatever they actually vote for because I have yet to see a single reason you would vote yes other than anything that could be plucked from the entertaining 2.5 hours of Braveheart.
Of course we should get what we vote for, that's how it works. Not sure how the rest of that paragraph is related to that though.
PLus why do Scotland feel so aggrieved at membership of the United Kingdom? They are the one country that freely walked into union with England, unlike Ireland and Wales? All this blustering self determination is just nonsense. Sorry but it is. If the Shetlands vote 'No' and insist they want to be independant from Scotland will the rest of Scotland respect their unique, Norse heritage? They have a much better argument for it than Scotland as a whole, Shetland would patently be better off being independent from Scotland or the UK due to the enormous oil reserves in their waters, it would make them mega rich,
Would Alex Salmond let them have a referendum on independence? I bet you your old age pension and your health service that he won't.
You appear to have some sort of cartoon image of Scots. It's been stated many times already why some Scots want independence and I didn't see a single case of aggrievement being put forward. Blustering self determination nonsense? That's the kind of arrogant wanker attitude we've had to put with for a long time. I don't need your fake apologies. There's a lot of support down south (but not here, another potential for us not being represented) to leave Europe, I trust you think that's nonsense.
Anyway arsehole comments aside, it's not like the UK is some sort of utopia at the moment. The better together campaign isn't really convincing with a background of austerity and food banks.
We didn't walk into the union, our MPs were the same landowners who blew their money on the Darien scheme and were scrabbling to get some money back for themselves and sold out those who didn't have a say in the matter. The few who supported it freely admitted that at least 75% of the population were against it.
Shetland doesn't have a better claim for independence not being a country. Why have you singled them out for "their vote being respected"? What about Gretna? Oh wait, we're having a Scottish referendum, that's right. I wont presume to know either if they would want their own independence or what response they would get, I'll leave pretending such things to you. Are you going to push for isle of wight independence? You wont get it because of things.
You're clearly arguing for the sake of arguing , just like in your previous post when you had to make stuff up, and I wish I hadn't skim read your post before replying as I my answer would have been a lot shorter if I'd known you were an arrogant bigot wanker.
