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Rik said:soapalchemist said:RB I'm going to respond to your question to Spandex, as I suspect you can Google soccer and find out what it is. :lol:
As an Irish person myself, I wouldn't say I'm particularly patriotic. But I do actually feel sorry for English people that their flag has come to symbolise fascism in the minds of many. Thereby leaving them with no national symbol that they can be proud of in an unashamed way - I mean no symbol that doesn't have connotations of fascism. (Apart from Bovril/Marmite.....and look what's happened to Marmite.....good on them for telling the BNP to get their product off their promotional stuff).
So to me, the Cross of St. David is a very ambiguous symbol, as just like the attempt on Marmite, it has been co-opted by what I hope is a minority........
And I see Hunny has now explained the soccer thing fully.
FFS - the swastika is a fascist flag. What a patronising post and I'm not even bloody English. :roll:
There you go fella; it took someone from outside this green and prosperous (well until labour got in) land to point out the totally lame, limp wristed, spineless anti British fervour that has been allowed to take hold and ferment not only in the houses of power but also into our schools.
The rather small percentage of small minded bigots that use our flag on their literature are vastly outnumbered by these people who for years have devalued and lauded the so called fascist or old Empire affiliation with the Union Jack.
This has actually done as much if not more harm in propagating the BNP/NF drivel than they could have done themselves a thousand fold and has more than likely resulted in many people joining them as a result.
The disturbing thing is, until the national flag can be flown outside our schools, council offices, town centres, etc etc without these oxygen thieving, treason whispering, scaremongering wasters strengthening these notions, were playing straight into their hands.
As for Empires, we were not the first and defiantly haven’t been the last.
Hope nothing has been lost in translation, im going for a shave............