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T&H have revealed their 2024 formulation by email (thanks guys) which is currently found in Highgrove & Mayfair ...
Highgrove
Sodium Palmate, Potassium Stearate, Sodium Stearate, Aqua (Water), Sodium Palm Kernelate, Potassium Laurate, Sodium Laurate, Glycerin, Parfum (Fragrance), Palm Kernel Acid, Titanium Dioxide, Potassium Palm Kernelate, Sodium Chloride, Tetrasodium Etidronate, Sodium Gluconate, Tetrasodium EDTA, Tetrasodium Iminodisuccinate, Limonene, Linalool
Mayfair
Sodium Palmate, Potassium Stearate, Sodium Stearate, Aqua (Water), Sodium Palm Kernelate, Potassium Laurate, Sodium Laurate, Glycerin, Parfum (Fragrance), Palm Kernel Acid, Titanium Dioxide, Potassium Palm Kernelate, Sodium Chloride, Tetrasodium Etidronate, Sodium Gluconate, Tetrasodium EDTA, Tetrasodium Iminodisuccinate, Limonene, Linalool, Hydroxycitronellal
... they also tell me that the shea butter enriched Apsley formulation introduced in 2018 is due for release of the reformulation in maybe 4-6 weeks. Pentasodium Pentetate will be replaced with Tetrasodium Iminodisuccinate and I'll make a guess it's like the above, but the shea butter somewhere after the parfum. I'll take a wild guess (given previous connections) that Floris' shea butter base will migrate to this formula as well and I've reached out to them asking what their intentions are.
I actually don't have much hope that either Trumpers or C&S will reformulate at this point, given that neither of their current offerings contain Pentasodium Pentetate, which seems to be the trigger. That said, C&S have a sale on now and the (dud) large tablet of No.88 that I bought only a matter of days ago is no longer present on the website ... not even marked as sold out. Maybe they are about to launch a new range. Maybe they're just getting out of the shaving soap market. Dunno, but we'll see.
As expected, the mainline T&H is strongly related to the new MWF & SFS formulations, as before. Interesting that they've opted to remain palmate-first where TOBS have gone with the (more European?) stearate-first.
Since "New Formulations A/B/C" are closely related and "New Formulations E/F/G" are closely related, I have drawn a box around them.
Has anyone used any of these new formulations, yet? Guys - check your recent purchases of MWF or TOBS Sandalwood! Perhaps one of us has tried Highgrove or Mayfair?
Highgrove
Sodium Palmate, Potassium Stearate, Sodium Stearate, Aqua (Water), Sodium Palm Kernelate, Potassium Laurate, Sodium Laurate, Glycerin, Parfum (Fragrance), Palm Kernel Acid, Titanium Dioxide, Potassium Palm Kernelate, Sodium Chloride, Tetrasodium Etidronate, Sodium Gluconate, Tetrasodium EDTA, Tetrasodium Iminodisuccinate, Limonene, Linalool
Mayfair
Sodium Palmate, Potassium Stearate, Sodium Stearate, Aqua (Water), Sodium Palm Kernelate, Potassium Laurate, Sodium Laurate, Glycerin, Parfum (Fragrance), Palm Kernel Acid, Titanium Dioxide, Potassium Palm Kernelate, Sodium Chloride, Tetrasodium Etidronate, Sodium Gluconate, Tetrasodium EDTA, Tetrasodium Iminodisuccinate, Limonene, Linalool, Hydroxycitronellal
... they also tell me that the shea butter enriched Apsley formulation introduced in 2018 is due for release of the reformulation in maybe 4-6 weeks. Pentasodium Pentetate will be replaced with Tetrasodium Iminodisuccinate and I'll make a guess it's like the above, but the shea butter somewhere after the parfum. I'll take a wild guess (given previous connections) that Floris' shea butter base will migrate to this formula as well and I've reached out to them asking what their intentions are.
I actually don't have much hope that either Trumpers or C&S will reformulate at this point, given that neither of their current offerings contain Pentasodium Pentetate, which seems to be the trigger. That said, C&S have a sale on now and the (dud) large tablet of No.88 that I bought only a matter of days ago is no longer present on the website ... not even marked as sold out. Maybe they are about to launch a new range. Maybe they're just getting out of the shaving soap market. Dunno, but we'll see.
As expected, the mainline T&H is strongly related to the new MWF & SFS formulations, as before. Interesting that they've opted to remain palmate-first where TOBS have gone with the (more European?) stearate-first.
Since "New Formulations A/B/C" are closely related and "New Formulations E/F/G" are closely related, I have drawn a box around them.
Has anyone used any of these new formulations, yet? Guys - check your recent purchases of MWF or TOBS Sandalwood! Perhaps one of us has tried Highgrove or Mayfair?
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