Charliej said:
Fellonblackdays said:
I don't agree with hitting kids at all. Agree with Smoose. There were people that abused the right to strike kids and were getting a kick out of it, its well known teaching used to harbour child abusers.
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Now there's a whole other can of worms, but I bet your parents and grandparents thought their kids were safe with the priest or vicar, that's a job that would harbour child abusers they are there in any jobs, rock stars too, to sully the teaching profession with such an accusation is unbelievable.
I and many many others suffered no lasting harm from corporal punishment at school, and would have also never have complained if it ever happened about a clip round the ear from a copper as you knew there would most likely be worse waiting if you went home and moaned about it. It taught people where boundaries are and that a punishment is supposed to hurt in some way and to be expected when those boundaries were crossed, to this day I would never talk to a police officer the way I hear 13 year old kids doing. I'm sorry but there is a huge difference between corporal punishment and beating someone senseless. Smoose's comment of "I would gladly disobey anyone " is endemic of the "me 1st" generations and a good reason why this country is in the uncaring shitty state it is these days, but you're that puffed up with how much you as an individual matter rather than as a nation or community that you would and could never understand.
It isn't an accusation its fact and well known.
Just because "you" didn't suffer any lasting harm from what is essentially having your human rights being infringed by being struck doesn't mean others should be subjected to it. I bet you don't agree with animals being beaten in a cruel manner to do tricks. Its essentially what caning people is, there are many people who were subjected to said punishment just because they didn't write with their right hand. "Puffed with how much as I matter as an individual. No not really, just a guy that see's past the whole Daily Mail side of things.
I'm a very very long way from being a Daily Mail reader so don't make assumptions, I just believe it's simple if you break the rules you get punished, that punishment should fit the infraction and actually punish it. I made no mention of the generation that got punished for being left handed as that was blatantly wrong, if, however, you knowingly choose to break the rules of whatever community you are part of then you should expect to be punished, and that doesn't mean go and stand on the naughty step, a punishment should be punitive. As for having my human rights abused I sure as hell don't see it that way, that's the type of attitude that doesn't let any of society's disciplinary issues and lack of respect get sorted out. It's an absolute fact that young people behave in a far worse way than ever before, and believe that they are entitled to do whatever they want, which usually involves "infringing" someone else's human rights.
"Harbouring" child abusers implies that the teaching profession actively hid and protected the "abuser" from any inquiry or police investigation and to even make that accusation marks you out as either a daily mail or sun reader, "harbouring" child abusers is what the church has done in covering up any of these activities. My mother and her sister were involved in education one as a teacher and then schools inspector, the other as a university lecturer teaching teachers and from the things they used to say anyone suspected of abuse was reported and suspended subject to inquiries and police investigation. Perhaps you believe that criminals should just be given a good telling off and told not to do it again, after all sending them to jail would be infringing their human rights.
