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hunnymonster said:Has anyone ever experienced a caravan pulling over to let the mile-long tailback they created past? Because in 25 years of driving, I haven't...
New contentious topic - Caravans should be restricted to driving between the hours of 11pm and 5am and subject to annual MOT inspections and £10000/yr road tax (per wheel) and not allowed to park anywhere that it disturbs the view of anyone else. After all Wordsworth didn't write:
I wandered lonely as a cloud
That floats on high o'er dale and hill
When all at once I came upon a bloody caravan park
:lol: :lol:hunnymonster said:Yeah, but in sausageland drivers actually mostly obey the rules - lane discipline, no elephant racing, etc...
cheese_dave said:Rights?
Remind me again how much it costs to road tax a bicycle? And how often you have to have your bicycle MOT'd by law to make sure it's safe enough to be on the road? And which cycling test you, by law, have to pass before you are certified as competent to take your bicycle out onto the road with us dangerous drivers?
Sorry if this has already been brought up.
I'm not having a pop, 1gear, I try my best to give cyclists their space, cos I know that's what I want when I'm out on my bike.
Let's face it, there are idiots on bikes, and idiots in cars.
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I'd also like to add my vote to the caravan/horsebox/tractor/Jeff smegging Irlam lorry thing - what's a tractor doing driving down the A50 between Knutsford and Holmes Chapel at 35mph AT RUSH HOUR??? Ban them to country lanes or at least keep them off the blasted road between 7am-10am and 4pm-7pm.
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cheese_dave said:Dammit, lectured by a 12 year old...
I do have a bicycle as well, you know.
You can't have "rights" when you're a bloke on a bike going up against someone driving a vehicle weighing three quarters of a ton. Ever morning I drive over the bridge at J17 on the M6, and like as not someone in a huge lorry will pull out in front of me. He has no right to do that, other than the fact that the amount of damage he will suffer as I smash into him is the same as the bulldozer in HHGTTG... none at all.
My main point was, idiots on all sides. Don't you like my boobs?
1gear said:I dont get why you are moaning about the 'Jeff Irlam' lorry(its James Irlam by the way, owned by Eddie Stobart) or even the caravans, horseboxes(horses are pointless though) Do you know what the speed limit is for HGVs along single carriageways?
cheese_dave said:Glad you feel happy to have scored a point over me. I'm old enough not to care. I have these boobs to play with.
hunnymonster said:1gear said:I dont get why you are moaning about the 'Jeff Irlam' lorry(its James Irlam by the way, owned by Eddie Stobart) or even the caravans, horseboxes(horses are pointless though) Do you know what the speed limit is for HGVs along single carriageways?
Taking the points in reverse - HGV drivers rarely stick to the 40mph limit - and a blind eye is turned to this because on a road like the A1 in North Northumberland if they did slow the HGVs to 40mph it would be solid gridlock and nobody able to turn right at all - ever.
As for the B+E trailer gang - inevitably they are undertaking leisure journeys - around here there aren't many roads so alternatives are not practical (I have 3 sensible choices to go to Edinburgh: direct 44 miles, alternative 1: 68 miles, alternative 2: 73 miles) - none is a road particularly conducive to overtaking and most people bimble along around 55mph steady. It turns a 48 minute pleasurable journey into a 2+ hour stressful journey on a summer Saturday morning & Sunday afternoon.
The caravanners do 55mph on the straights (which all have speed cameras) but come to a bend (there are lots) regardless of the severity of the bend (be it 10 degrees from straight or almost back on yourself) they're down to 35mph, or a speed camera (they're down to 35mph) or they spot the Talevan camera van (they're down to 35mph)... compare and contrast with 99% of the HGV drivers - they slow down on the straights to let as many people past as possible... the caravanners actively speed up to bunch as many people behind them as it's humanly possible to do. They even manage to get two caravans abreast on the 2 crawler lane sections - it's absolutely un-fucking-believable.
Then when they get where they're going they make an eyesore that's visible from space with 4503459834 caravans stuffed in a field.
BURN THE LOT OF THEM.
Seriously they ought to be banned off the road between 0500 & 2300 - taxed at £10kpa per wheel and subject to monthly MOTs and a reasonable compulsory eyesore tax of £10/minute they're stationary anywhere
cheese_dave said:My point about the lorries, horse-boxes, etc., is that they go very slow when I want to go faster. I don't care what the legal speed of them is, I want to do 60 when the national speed limit applies. I don't want to be stuck behind something slow. It refers to something HM said earlier on in this thread.
Glad you feel happy to have scored a point over me. I'm old enough not to care. I have these boobs to play with.
1gear said:However, companies are getting drivers to stick to the 40mph limits. Even though the limits are now out of date, with some limits being set because of the fuel shortages a while back and going by old brakes etc.
1gear said:We also have a caravan, and we happily go along doing the speed limits and dont really cause much of a tail back.
They don't know how to behave responsibly - a vehicle not towing a trailer along gently rolling single carriageway road can maintain 55mph, a vehicle towing a trailer can't and will cause a tailback, according to the Caravan Club, he should pull in and let them past. IT NEVER HAPPENS EVER.1gear said:Sounds more like the caravaners by you dont really know how to drive.
1gear said:So, because you cant do the speed you want and you have to go slower, you hate it :? My god, i think you need to relax abit more:lol:
Should also point out that driving too slow is as much against the law as driving too fast. It can cause accidents. It's all about people not driving appropriate to the road conditions.1gear said:So, because you cant do the speed you want and you have to go slower, you hate it :? My god, i think you need to relax abit more:lol:
Im quite happy to score a point over you. One of my MOST favourite things ever is racing pensioners on bikes:lol:
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