Mac on a budget

hunnymonster said:
Pig Cat said:
Anyway, more thoughts please gentlemen... :D

In all the time you've had it, have you ever completely reinstalled Windows? (ie. back up your data, format it and reinstall?)

Nope. I think I'm worried about losing progams that are necessary. Mrs PC* downloads quite a few games that get stored on the computer so she wouldn't want them to go. Plus there is my spectacular collection of porn to consider. I back up using Mozy but have set it to only back up photos, videos (not porn I was only joking) and my work stuff. Perhaps I should set it to back up everything? I do know a computer blokey who could help with this. I take it you feel this is worthwhile as my PC's specs are not too shabby?

* I hope my use of 'PC' in two contexts isn't confusing anyone too much. :?
 
hunnymonster said:
I would say that there's life in the old girl yet... lots of crudware would accumulate over time and if Mrs PC is downloading copious quantities of shite^H^H^H^H^Hgames from t'internet it'll all be just clogging up the PC...

OK, sounds like it's worth a try. We can't afford to fork out a grand for a while anyway, it would take some saving up. Thanks HM!
 
I doubt the Mrs' games will work if you go to MAC, I think you can get win7 licenses for £100.

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that will tell you if your spec is enough to run it.
 
hunnymonster said:
I would say that there's life in the old girl yet... lots of crudware would accumulate over time and if Mrs PC is downloading copious quantities of shite^H^H^H^H^Hgames from t'internet it'll all be just clogging up the PC...

There you go , A Mac on a budget :lol:

Job done.
 
How much free space on the C: drive btw - what you describe as symptoms could be the disk being both full and heavily fragmented with little space for the page file...

Mind you - I'd probably back up all the stuff - run something like Belarc Advisor to get a list of installed applications - and reinstall from scratch - then when it's installed and set up as you want it - make a drive image so you can simply roll that back over the top instead of reinstalling the balls-aching way again. Obviously you may have to acquire something to back up on to (an external 500GB drive would do the job for the rig you have now - backup of 2x120G drives plus images of them at the end)
 
hunnymonster said:
How much free space on the C: drive btw - what you describe as symptoms could be the disk being both full and heavily fragmented with little space for the page file...

Free space 23.2GB
Total size 107GB

:ugeek:
 
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I use this to get rid of crap from windows boxes ,has a registry cleaner , also allows you to remove programs that are loaded at startup(be very careful using this don't remove something unless you are sure ),and uninstaller (again only remove stuff you are sure about).

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This is a pretty good defrag program.

There are probably a load of apps loading at startup ,that just sit there and hog resources , crap like Office and adobe that you can open when needed.
 
I think HM is right, sounds like your machine needs a good de gunking and you might be able to add some more RAM to help things along depending on your motherboard. I like and use both Mac and PC for different reasons but I'm also the king of the refurb and got a laptop very reasonably from here.

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I worked in the IT industry for a few years and have owned and maintained many PCs in my time.

I got sick of having to "maintain" the things every couple of weeks. The applications' authors didn't write proper uninstall routines, so loads of junk was left over even after you thought you'd removed something. There were so many viruses and malware it was a joke. Hence, you have all this extra anti-virus/spyware software installed that you shouldn't really need clogging up your system and using resources.

Another problem is that when you install Windows (and this applies to OS X too), is that the default user is an Admin user, and this gives them complete power over the machine. This account should never be used for everyday use.

Any viruses you download then also have that Admin power. It's better to create an Admin user specifically for software maintenance etc, then create limited accounts for everyday use by you and your family. It will limit the damage any malicious software will be able to wreck.

PCs are not the problem - the hardware is fine - the trouble is the god-awful Windows operating system, which has been inherently flawed for years. Up until recently it depended on the underlying MS-DOS which was a clunky single-user operating system. Security was never a factor in its design.

OS X on the other hand, is based on a Unix variant, as is Linux, and these systems have been security aware from their inception. When I was at Uni and the internet was still unheard of except in academic and military institutions, Unix was used for good reason. It's very secure, and is as old as the Internet itself.

So, I use a Mac now, and have never been happier. Underneath the pretty user interface is a powerful Unix system if you need it!
 
Or alternatively, you could get hold of a Linux live CD of some sort and see whether you could get on with that. It's not a geeky user hostile OS any more (or at least, it doesn't have to be). The main downside is the hours you will lose to Mahjongg.
 
ubuntu is a pretty interface with unix underneath.Dead easy to install too.

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as others have already said, savings on Apple hardware are hard to come by.

however, you can use the following to shave some ££'s off the price (sorry ;))

Quidco - free to sign up and you get 3% cashback at the Apple store.
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Education discount - certain rules for this one, but if you (or a family member) qualify then worth using.
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The refurb section is always worth a look but the decent stuff goes v quickly.

good luck, once you take the plunge you won't look back!

slim
 
15 inch Macbook Pro

£1,531.00
incl. VAT

Specifications

* 2.66GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
* 4GB 1066MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x2GB
* 320GB Serial ATA Drive @ 5400 rpm
* SuperDrive 8x (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
* MacBook Pro 15-inch Glossy Widescreen Display
* None
* Backlit Keyboard (British) & User’s Guide (English)

SonyVPC-F11X 16'4 inch

Total £ 1,229.01

Specifications

# Intel® Core(TM) i7 Processor
# Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium
# 640 GB Serial ATA (5400 rpm)
# 6 GB 1333MHz DDR3-SDRAM
# Blu-ray Disc(TM) player
# 41.6 cm LCD, 1920x1080, webcam
* Backlit Keyboard (British) & User’s Guide (English)

Total £ 1,229.01

Could never figure out how apple charge so much more for so little.
 
Apparently if you're in Japan you can get a cheap PC here

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The sign is using a bilingual pun on the Japanese word (binbo) which can be translated as "poor." It's apparently promoting a store that sells cheap PCs and computer parts.
 
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