U.K. Coticule honing

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BlacknTan

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I just ran across, and thought it might be helpful to some in the group..

My old friend Gary Haywood has set up a new website, and is offering honing to the public. I've had the pleasure of shaving with Gary's coticule edges, and I don't know of anyone better. He has invested tremendous amounts of time to learn these stones, that are often not that easy to learn.
This is helpful for giving prospective coticule users a mark to shoot for in their own honing.

So, for you gents across the pond that would like to experience the ultimate coticule edge, check out Gary's new website ..

http://thestraightrazorspecialist.com/
 
I've restored and honed many razors for Gary, next time you see him mention Jamie was asking after him, in fact the last razor he sent was one of his Mastro Livi razors I even gave it a shave before I sent it back to him.
 
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pugh-the-special-one said:
Not awkward really Gary uses Coticules and I use Chosera stones he liked the edges off them he even went on a purchased a set as I remember.
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You use Chosera' s all the way through, Jamie?

I was thinking of another Chosera to make the jump between the 1K Chosera and my coticules, or JNats. I've got a 3K natural, but I think I could do better ... possibly with a 3K Chosera
 
I use a three stone progression all synthetic of course Chosera 1K Chosera 5K another Naniwa family member a Snow White 8K which in all repects is a Chosera 8K possibly the fastest cutting 8K you will ever lay your hands on that puts a super polish on the edge and then I finally finish on a Naniwa SS 12K. so 1K 5K, 8K, 12K.
 
No problem to mix and match, Gary says on his site he sets the bevel with Chosera before moving on to coticule. He may possibly be giving the nod to a method written up by Bart Torfs (SRP Wiki):
- set bevel with DMT 1000
- hone with light slurry on Belgian Blue (coticule family)
- finish with water only or even dry yellow coticule
(I use this reliable and exquisite method all the time although I prefer to set the bevel with a fast coticule to keep things 'traditional'). Since about a month curiosity got the better of me and I purchased Shapton glass stones from 1 to 16K. Easy to use and sharp edges - but.... a bit harsh on my face - so more often than not I've mellowed the final Shapton edge with a natural stone like a yellow coticule or thuringian - or it could be that I'm not using the Shaptons properly :).

PS I really hate the cleaning exercise required by the synthetic Shaptons after honing! :)
 
MichaelS said:
PS I really hate the cleaning exercise required by the synthetic Shaptons after honing! :)
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I prefer the Naniwa Professional stones - they hardle collect any swarf and don't require anything like the cleaning of Shapton stones.
 
UKRob said:
MichaelS said:
PS I really hate the cleaning exercise required by the synthetic Shaptons after honing! :)
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I prefer the Naniwa Professional stones - they hardle collect any swarf and don't require anything like the cleaning of Shapton stones.
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I've been giving the 3K Professional a hard look. I've got a 3K (purportedly) natural, but it is painfully slow. I could jump to a coticule directly from the 1K Chosera, but i've come to like a 3K to remove the scratch marks from the Chosera 1K, and then go on from there ..

I can still get a 3K Chosera, but I'm wondering if the 3K Professional may be a better choice.
 
BlacknTan said:
UKRob said:
MichaelS said:
PS I really hate the cleaning exercise required by the synthetic Shaptons after honing! :)
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I prefer the Naniwa Professional stones - they hardle collect any swarf and don't require anything like the cleaning of Shapton stones.
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I've been giving the 3K Professional a hard look. I've got a 3K (purportedly) natural, but it is painfully slow. I could jump to a coticule directly from the 1K Chosera, but i've come to like a 3K to remove the scratch marks from the Chosera 1K, and then go on from there ..

I can still get a 3K Chosera, but I'm wondering if the 3K Professional may be a better choice.
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Hi Bill,

The new Naniwa professionals are the replacement for the old Chosera's basically the same stones.
 
It depends on whether the 5k is removing scratch marks OK - you can tell because at the 8k stage and certainly the 12k, you should have a mirror like bevel. If there are still visible scratch marks you either have to spend a bit more time on the 5k or introduce the 3k.

My progression is slightly different in that I have 1k, 3k, 5k, 10k Naniwas and then a 20k Goyumyu. At 10k stage the bevel is almost flawless in terms of scratches.
 
UKRob said:
It depends on whether the 5k is removing scratch marks OK - you can tell because at the 8k stage and certainly the 12k, you should have a mirror like bevel. If there are still visible scratch marks you either have to spend a bit more time on the 5k or introduce the 3k.

My progression is slightly different in that I have 1k, 3k, 5k, 10k Naniwas and then a 20k Goyumyu. At 10k stage the bevel is almost flawless in terms of scratches.
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Thanks a lot Rob.
After finishing on stones I always strop the razor on a croX(green pasted) paddle strop. Next time I will just strop the razor on plain leather and shave.
 
PS, just noticed Coticule.be is active again. The 'Gary' mixed progression mentioned above is there as 'Progression honing method' in case anyone interested. There is also a new section called The Clinic (Helpdesk).....
 
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