England v India

[Fido]

Pujara - out caught off his elbow.

It's hard to have any sympathy for a team who still resist the use of video evidence in these cases.

But luck is often the difference between winning and losing in sport.

 

[chrisbell]

Pujara - out caught off his elbow.

It's hard to have any sympathy for a team who still resist the use of video evidence in these cases.

But luck is often the difference between winning and losing in sport.

Do you happen to know why India refuse to accept video evidence, Peter?

 

[Fido]

This gives some interesting background and an official statement of the Indian position:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/jun/25/india-decision-review-system-cricket

In essence, they don't think DRS is foolproof. That's true - but it has led to the correction of many blatant errors.

 

[chrisbell]

This gives some interesting background and an official statement of the Indian position:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/jun/25/india-decision-review-system-cricket

In essence, they don't think DRS is foolproof. That's true - but it has led to the correction of many blatant errors.

So the umpire who gave Pujara out must have been sure at the time, as I'd have thought he could have asked the Third Umpire if he was unsure, even without DRS?

 

[Fido]

This gives some interesting background and an official statement of the Indian position:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/jun/25/india-decision-review-system-cricket

In essence, they don't think DRS is foolproof. That's true - but it has led to the correction of many blatant errors.

So the umpire who gave Pujara out must have been sure at the time, as I'd have thought he could have asked the Third Umpire if he was unsure, even without DRS?

It's a bit complicated. The Umpire could only have asked the third umpire if the catch carried. But once he had done that, the third umpire could have told him the ball didn't touch bat or gloves anyway. So he might have ended up being given not out.

 

[chrisbell]

This gives some interesting background and an official statement of the Indian position:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/jun/25/india-decision-review-system-cricket

In essence, they don't think DRS is foolproof. That's true - but it has led to the correction of many blatant errors.

So the umpire who gave Pujara out must have been sure at the time, as I'd have thought he could have asked the Third Umpire if he was unsure, even without DRS?

It's a bit complicated. The Umpire could only have asked the third umpire if the catch carried. But once he had done that, the third umpire could have told him the ball didn't touch bat or gloves anyway. So he might have ended up being given not out.

So the on-field umpire made two mistakes - the ball didn't carry and it was off the elbow?

 

[cubert]

This gives some interesting background and an official statement of the Indian position:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/jun/25/india-decision-review-system-cricket

In essence, they don't think DRS is foolproof. That's true - but it has led to the correction of many blatant errors.

So the umpire who gave Pujara out must have been sure at the time, as I'd have thought he could have asked the Third Umpire if he was unsure, even without DRS?

It's a bit complicated. The Umpire could only have asked the third umpire if the catch carried. But once he had done that, the third umpire could have told him the ball didn't touch bat or gloves anyway. So he might have ended up being given not out.

So the on-field umpire made two mistakes - the ball didn't carry and it was off the elbow?

No. The umpire could only refer to the third umpire to check if the catch was good or not. As the catch was obviously good he couldn't refer it.

If he did have grounds to refer the catch the third umpire could also look at where the ball hit, glove, arm, elbow etc. But that in itself can't be referred.

On the subject of DRS, the Indians don't want it as it goes some way towards taking away their ploy of overly aggressive and persistent appealing in the hope of wearing umpires down to just 'give one'.

 

[chrisbell]

I see, I'm with it now!

 

[Fido]

Last ball 6 to win the Twenty/20. That's the way to do it. Well done England.

 

[Norky]

What a shot!