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Another home brewer and lover of craft beer here, @jimmyc if you wanted to get into whole grain brewing at a fraction of the cost of one of those all in one systems then look into brew in a bag (BIAB) it's what i do, my set up cost me about £250 but you could do it for even less, Get er brewed do some good starter kits. Jims beer kit forum is an excellent source of information as well.