Damian Murphy said:Rev-O said:Ireland, though, of all countries is a tale of hubris and nemesis: the Celtic Tiger over-reached itself and toppled.
But the history of Ireland makes it all the more tragic: fighting for autonomy, then joining the Big Boys' Club (the EU) and now reduced now being bailed-out by the British of all people.
Makes me sad and angry in equal measure: if I'd lost a son in the Troubles I'd say "Fuck 'em, let them fall" on the other hand we're only helping a major customer to keep on buying from us, so the loan is cynical in the extreme. Either way, it's pretty crappy.
And if were a proud Fenian I'd be appalled and ashamed at the state of the Free Republic.
On a separate note, why is that the non-Protestant countries seem to be doing worse (the Iberian peninsula, Belgium et al for the Catholics and Greece for the Orthodox). Was the Industrial Revolution really only an exercise in the Protestant Work Ethic? (And the secular French rioting at the thought of having to retire at 50 or whatever sickens me, too.) Britain, Germany, Holland etc - the countries of the Reformation - are weathering the storm better.
No idea why and I am not out to make a partisan point but it bothers me.
The bailout is'nt for the Irish people ,its for the banks , the Irish government decided to give a bank guarantee ,which it could'nt afford. This meant that the Irish taxpayer takes over the banks debts. The bailout is to cover the losses of banks
~70 billion euro (nobody is really sure how much it will ultimately cost) . The British taxpayers contribution to the bailout is for bankers. The government let the bankers do whatever they wanted. And now The Irish,British,German,French etc; taxpayer will pay the cost.
If the Irish were'nt bailed out the British banks who are owed at least 130 billion would have to be bailed out by the British taxpayer.
RB73 said:For a country that is pulling its purse strings in due to the previous F**kwits exploits, how are we justifying these huge amounts of bail outs. We didn't want the Euro but all we seem to be doing is bailing out every other corrupt/irrisponsable tw*t that welcomed it with open arms.
Give money to Southern Ireland, yes, take it out of the disproportionately huge amount of money we already pay in to bloody Europe.
What gets me is, if we go to the wall, who will be queuing up to bail us out. NO FU*KER...!!!!!!
Blyth Spirit said:RB73 said:For a country that is pulling its purse strings in due to the previous F**kwits exploits, how are we justifying these huge amounts of bail outs. We didn't want the Euro but all we seem to be doing is bailing out every other corrupt/irrisponsable tw*t that welcomed it with open arms.
Give money to Southern Ireland, yes, take it out of the disproportionately huge amount of money we already pay in to bloody Europe.
What gets me is, if we go to the wall, who will be queuing up to bail us out. NO FU*KER...!!!!!!
Er, we aren't giving them anything it is a commercial loan, albeit a big bugger.
You are right about the exploits of the previous Prime Mentalist, Broon - whose book is published today - who did so much to destroy our economy, our pension schemes, sold the gold, gave millions (we didn't have) to Africa, et cetera....
JohnnyO said:"The more things change, the more they are the same". Courtesy of Alphonse Karr.
JohnnyO,. :?
Blyth Spirit said:In the immortal words of the late great Ronald Reagan...
"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"
antdad said:That'll be the same Jimmy Carr who said we'd have a f ***ing great paralympic team because of all the amputee serviceman coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan.
Of course it was that wall street puppet Reagan who started it all, right Blyth?
antdad said:Of course it was that wall street puppet Reagan who started it all, right Blyth?
Damian Murphy said:One of our biggest banks AIB which has been bailed out by the Irish tax payer , 3.5 billion euro and is looking for more ,has announced that they are paying bonuses to 2,400 of their execs worth 40 million euro.
They really don't give a toss
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