dodgy said:'The Godfather'... the movie comes pretty darn close to the written word and the photography and music is stunning.
mattlad said:Starship Troopers. The film may have been just another teen rom shoot 'em up action sci-fi movie but it was hugely better than the book - which was a new era in total boredom:dodgy:
Pig Cat said:mattlad said:Starship Troopers. The film may have been just another teen rom shoot 'em up action sci-fi movie but it was hugely better than the book - which was a new era in total boredom:dodgy:
Yes, I agree, but I think the film has more to it than that.
Dr Rick said:Now, don't get me wrong, Tolkien was important to me as a kid - the first time I read LotR I was blown away. But then I was eight (I know, precocious bastard) and not yet sufficiently attuned to good writing to even notice, say, how bad Asimov's dialogue and prose were. Tolkien is far better than that, but there is plenty wrong with the books in terms of craft - and much less wrong with Jackson's films. Of course the books still have real emotional resonance for me because of that early exposure
A great deal of the foundations of SF and fantasy were poorly written, which doesn't make them less important or - for enthusiasts - lovable, but they are what they are. Of course the buying punkin often don't care - I think somebody in the thread already mentioned Dan Brown, say. (And again, I'm not saying LotR is this bad, or even bad at all - just that Jackson is a better director than Tolkien was a stylist.)
Parenthetically, both Michael Moorcock and China Mieville have written serious essays about LotR which pigcat, at least, may find interesting.
dodgy said:Hiya,
Most of you have seen 'The Godfather', maybe multiple times like myself. Yeah, when that movie came out (1973) the book had been written around 3-4 years before. It was a huge Bestseller.....a book about gangsters with richly evolved cast of unforgettable characters and their escapades and inner thoughts. Nothing like that had ever been written before that I can remember.
So when Marlon Brando was picked for his role I though "What the hell is this about?". Heh, plus, they gave him that muddy kinda low mumble along with a facial appliance to give him a slight underbite. Truthfully, I thought this was a very odd role for Mr Brando to be playing, but what do I know.
The movie was as good as it is (one reason anyway) was because the author was asked by Mr Coppola to help with the screenplay.....very smart move. I think the book was better because it fleshes out all those wonderful family members more than the movie possibly can. Plus, there's more background in the book as well.
Still, the movie comes pretty darn close to the written word and the photography and music is stunning.
Martin
antdad said:I thought the mumbling cotton wool inserts were Brandos idea?
Mind you they really couldn't show Luca Brasi throwing his new born into a furnace because it was a girl instead of a boy.
cruciate said:Now I'm gonna back down, based on the fact that your use of English surpassed my intelligence levels. I assume that you are more knowledgable about these things.
I loved LOTR and the tedious walls of text made me feel like I was being invited, not into a story about a ring bearer, but into a world in which there is a story about a ring bearer.
Johnus said:They made books out of all these Movies. Who would have thought?
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