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Yeah I understand what you mean but I've only had the thing 2 weeks and used it 3 times so to be honest I don't think it's reasonable to expect this kind of tarnishing to be evident already with good care being paid to it between those shaves.mikew said:Hi Will. I'm not sure what you expect the manufacturer to do about this, or think they could have done to avoid this. It's a natural process, carbon steel will oxidise. Of course if it came from the factory with water staining that's a different matter.
If you want a razor that looks the same in ten years as it does the day you bought it stainless steel would be a better choice.
The only strop I have used is the one I bought at the same time from the same company I bought the razor from and I did not apply anything to the strop. All I did was use the scrub leather and then the premium leather, that's all. The discolouration is along the edge on both sides and from the edge part of the toe travelling up the way to the shank with various marks dotted all over the blade itself.UKRob said:Fully agree with Mike's comment. If it's just the edge have you checked your strop isn't contaminated in some way and being picked up from that?
I have 40 or so blades - predominantly carbon steel and don't have a problem despite living in a hard water area and only using any one of them occasionally.
Thanks I'll certainly keep that in mind. I had a look and the PAA ingredient list and it looks fairly clean, the only acid listed is Stearic Acid which I'm sure you'll agree is fairly difficult to avoid in shaving soap. It on the face of it has all natural butters and oils but they could have acid components to them. I'd be very surprised if this was the source of the problem but you never know. Thanks.RedHorseman said:It depends on what is getting on it, tannin stains carbon steel badly and quickly, a lot of acids will stain steel on contact.
Sorry I should have said I only store after allowing to sit out for 8 to 12 hours after drying and stropping. Yes that's correct this developed during the shave as it was fine during my stropping before the shave but appeared at the end when I was finished with the blade. I'll try and find a way to post pics. I have emailed the company I bought it from that was not Ralf Aust to see what they think. So I'll hang fire in speaking to RA until they get back to me.UKRob said:Photos would help - if you use a hosting site you should be able to add them from there. I'd be interested in what Ralph Aust has to say about it - and whether it's a problem with the steel.
One thing to bear in mind is that storing in waxed paper and in a box is not ideal - if there is any moisture at all left when you put it away, it has nowghere to go. Far better to air dry for 24 hours. However, if I understand correctly, you are saying that the blade was clean when taken out of its wrapper but then develops marks during the shave that do not wipe off. I've never come across anything like that and agree with you that it's unlikely to be the soap.
Keep us informed.
Its a paddle strop I'm using and there was nothing I could see on either surface I used before or after the stropping that would suggest any contamination. Thanks.Nishy said:This sounds very strange, was the strop left with any surface stains?
Here you go Rob, hopefully this works.UKRob said:Photos would help - if you use a hosting site you should be able to add them from there. I'd be interested in what Ralph Aust has to say about it - and whether it's a problem with the steel.
One thing to bear in mind is that storing in waxed paper and in a box is not ideal - if there is any moisture at all left when you put it away, it has nowghere to go. Far better to air dry for 24 hours. However, if I understand correctly, you are saying that the blade was clean when taken out of its wrapper but then develops marks during the shave that do not wipe off. I've never come across anything like that and agree with you that it's unlikely to be the soap.
Keep us informed.
1morepasswill said:Its a paddle strop I'm using and there was nothing I could see on either surface I used before or after the stropping that would suggest any contamination. Thanks.Nishy said:This sounds very strange, was the strop left with any surface stains?
Will
http://s1167.photobucket.com/user/1morepasswill/library/
Hopefully this link will work and you guy's can see what I mean. There are blemishes on the other side of the blade at the razor edge as well as randomly at points as far up at the shank but this side of the blade was the easiest to get clear pics of.
Here you go Rob, hopefully this works.UKRob said:Photos would help - if you use a hosting site you should be able to add them from there. I'd be interested in what Ralph Aust has to say about it - and whether it's a problem with the steel.
One thing to bear in mind is that storing in waxed paper and in a box is not ideal - if there is any moisture at all left when you put it away, it has nowghere to go. Far better to air dry for 24 hours. However, if I understand correctly, you are saying that the blade was clean when taken out of its wrapper but then develops marks during the shave that do not wipe off. I've never come across anything like that and agree with you that it's unlikely to be the soap.
Keep us informed.
http://s1167.photobucket.com/user/1morepasswill/library/
Nishy said:1morepasswill said:Its a paddle strop I'm using and there was nothing I could see on either surface I used before or after the stropping that would suggest any contamination. Thanks.Nishy said:This sounds very strange, was the strop left with any surface stains?
Will
http://s1167.photobucket.com/user/1morepasswill/library/
Hopefully this link will work and you guy's can see what I mean. There are blemishes on the other side of the blade at the razor edge as well as randomly at points as far up at the shank but this side of the blade was the easiest to get clear pics of.
Here you go Rob, hopefully this works.UKRob said:Photos would help - if you use a hosting site you should be able to add them from there. I'd be interested in what Ralph Aust has to say about it - and whether it's a problem with the steel.
One thing to bear in mind is that storing in waxed paper and in a box is not ideal - if there is any moisture at all left when you put it away, it has nowghere to go. Far better to air dry for 24 hours. However, if I understand correctly, you are saying that the blade was clean when taken out of its wrapper but then develops marks during the shave that do not wipe off. I've never come across anything like that and agree with you that it's unlikely to be the soap.
Keep us informed.
http://s1167.photobucket.com/user/1morepasswill/library/
Hi fella it wasn't so much a contaminated strop but perhaps cheap plating on the steel to hide those marks you now see, as I cant come up with any other explanation having read your procedures.
Nishy said:Hi fella it wasn't so much a contaminated strop but perhaps cheap plating on the steel to hide those marks you now see, as I cant come up with any other explanation having read your procedures.
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