Vintage SE razor

[mpf9ret]

Thanks for the help guys. I will give that forum a try to see if anyone can confirm if it is the "Z" model or not.

With regards to the wedge. I do have the original blade and did notice it is much thicker, so I tried to replicate the angle when shaving. But the wedge sounds like the perfect solution. Am I removing the spine and using the spine as a wedge? So a spine and then a new blade with a spine on top of that? Bit like this https://www.badgerandblade.com/forum/threads/shovel-head-razor.469507/

Sorry if that's a stupid question.

Callum
It is so long ago that I did it that my memory is a bit hazy. Think it was a 1/2 spine but am sure someone will give a definitive answer.I used a few oldies but passed them on, as I have enough of various types to keep me busy.
Mike

 

[mpf9ret]

Hi Callum,
Great razor and top find,
Pop over to TOST3, that's where a few experts hang out, only SE Safety razors allowed, everything else is an "Unmentionable "

tost3

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Not as good as Tost2 was with info going back years. I have problems getting photos on that site, so have not used it
for ages. I don’t like SOTD without photos .

 

[Tony'schin]

Not as good as Tost2 was with info going back years. I have problems getting photos on that site, so have not used it
for ages. I don’t like SOTD without photos .

Hi Mike, I use post image, it's free and easy to load photos.

Voilà
Come on back, you are missed.
T

 

[riverrun]

From the top of my head:
The Z is for 'Zinn'.
So this model was probably made for the 'Zinn' company owned by the Zinn family.
If I recall correctly they were investors in GEM and weren't they in the same building as well?
The Zinn company owned the patent for the 1912.

 

[Mr.Draper87]

I will have to do some more research into it. I might try asking on some of the other forums to see if anyone has any information on it there.

 

[pjgh]

It does say Patented Nov 5/01 on the back, making it one of the very early 1900s. The Waits Compendium is light on this, but does have a listing for the 1903 Z which he states was "used since August 1903". What I think you have is what's called a "Crowned Gem".

Either way, bloomin' marvellous acquisition ... such a beautiful object does not have to have a purpose and I'd say to keep it, even if you don't want to shave with it at the moment.

You could also try it with an elastic band wrapped around the spine of the blade which will lift it up a little and angle it down more. This razor would have taken a wedge type blade back in its day.

 

[pjgh]

Dodgy geezer over on TSD calls it a Crown/Crowned Gem from 1901 although the pictures are missing.

@Fergiebilly

Maiden Shave with my GEM 1901 Crowned Lather Catcher

1901 Crowned GEM Safety Razor.....[IMG] [IMG] Another Shot....[IMG] [IMG] And Another....[IMG] [IMG] And Finally.....[IMG] [IMG] The GEM "1901...

theshaveden.com

Google has an archive:



Ah! Hello ...

Shaving with an SE Wedge Blade

Billy your on a roll this week my friend. Some serious Single edge porn. Another beautiful example to showcase. Really intrigued and excited to hear how well you are getting on with the Heljestrand wedge also. I need to delve deeper and source some of them for myself.

www.theshavingroom.co.uk

Nowadays, he's more Crown & Sword (Solingen) than Gem.

 

[Fergiebilly]

Dodgy geezer over on TSD calls it a Crown/Crowned Gem from 1901 although the pictures are missing.

@Fergiebilly

Maiden Shave with my GEM 1901 Crowned Lather Catcher

1901 Crowned GEM Safety Razor.....[IMG] [IMG] Another Shot....[IMG] [IMG] And Another....[IMG] [IMG] And Finally.....[IMG] [IMG] The GEM "1901...

theshaveden.com

Google has an archive:

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Ah! Hello ...

Shaving with an SE Wedge Blade

Billy your on a roll this week my friend. Some serious Single edge porn. Another beautiful example to showcase. Really intrigued and excited to hear how well you are getting on with the Heljestrand wedge also. I need to delve deeper and source some of them for myself.

www.theshavingroom.co.uk

Nowadays, he's more Crown & Sword (Solingen) than Gem.

 

[Mr.Draper87]

I think you are right about what this razor is. it does have Nov 5/01 on the back. Maybe I should try to take some better more detailed pictures today. I do have the tin but has lost most of the detail from it, and unfortunately, the lid is missing. It does have the case for the blade with the blade still inside. I will try to get some pictures of this. The tin in the picture does match perfectly with what I can make out on my tin.

It was a very enjoyable shave. But think it will be even better once I've got some practice with this razor and tried using a shim. I've noticed you can buy 3d printed shims off of Etsy, so I might pick up one of them. If the shim technique makes the shave even better.

If this razor is as rare as stated on TSD I probably shouldn't mention how little I won this razor for.

Thanks to everyone for taking the time to help me with this, it's appreciated.

 

[Mr.Draper87]

Hi guys, so I managed to take some more detailed pictures of the razor. Hopefully, these might help confirm it as a "Crowned Gem"

 

[Mr.Draper87]

These ones are of the tin and blade. Sadly the tin has a lot of damage and I don't want to risk trying to clean it. So I have left it as it is.

 

[riverrun]

The razor is not that rare. Even I have one.

Not in a great condition as yours though. It did clean up OK though. Before and after:

Needless to say, I didn't pay much for it.

 

[Mr.Draper87]

I think in the next few weeks I might move this razor on. I've decided I much prefer AC SE razors. And as I'm trying to just have one SE and one DE, the GEM Kampe and the 1912 will have to go at some point. My problem is I have no idea what the GEM Kampe is worth and so what price to ask for. Would be asking for £45 too much or too little? Any advice on valuing this razor would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Callum

 

[mpf9ret]

I think in the next few weeks I might move this razor on. I've decided I much prefer AC SE razors. And as I'm trying to just have one SE and one DE, the GEM Kampe and the 1912 will have to go at some point. My problem is I have no idea what the GEM Kampe is worth and so what price to ask for. Would be asking for £45 too much or too little? Any advice on valuing this razor would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Callum

Asking price depends where you are selling it.,you can research selling prices if selling in market place. Always nice if selling on Forums to sell at mates rates, if possible cover your purchase cost + small amount.

 

[Mr.Draper87]

I would always offer what I have to sell on here first. I would rather one of you guys get first dibs. I will try to do some searches and see what kind of price these go for.