- Messages
- 1,026
- Location
- Ayrshire
mr..bean said:
I was listening to Radio 4 yesterday and they played a clip of a lady in Edinburgh saying, and I quote '...so this time I will be voting Yes'. This time?!
First of all, this crap about independence being something that Alex Salmond has dreamt up for himself is utter phalacy. The SNP exists for the purpose of gaining independence; do you think all the SNP members are following their leader like mindless drones or perhaps they joined because that's what they wanted? If he wasn't pushing for independence he wouldn't be doing his job and should be replaced. People go on about how smug Salmond is, I just think he has that appearance because he has chubby cheeks, but when people have to resort to comments about demeanour and appearance it's nothing but cheap rhetoric.mr..bean said:Yes, it will be very sad if they choose to go and they will go with my best wishes no matter how much I have the nagging doubt that their future could be sold up the river for one man's megalomaniacal vanity project. I used to respect Alex Salmond but when I have seen him in debates he comes across as a blustering bully under the slightest scrutiny (as Nick Robinson from the BBC found out the other day).
That was never an Irish flag but related to a chivarlic order introduced by George III. It was a good design, much better than the others, and the pretext that it was an Irish flag was shoehorned in to explain it. The only time you might see that being waved in Eire is when some unionists are looking for more trouble than they want. That aside, I'd point to the flags of New Zealand and Australia which both have the union flag, and the closest thing to controversy I've seen raised by this is Brits singing "get your shit stars, get your shit stars, get your shit stars off our flag".Also I don't really see why the flag should change either, after all the Saltire of Saint Patrick is still in there? Plus up to 31st Dec 1800 we were The Kingdom of Great Britain (excluding Ireland completely as a separate Kingdom) and the flag then did not have Saint Patrick's Saltire included.
I just hope that people remember why the Act of Union passed in the first place (Scotland's bankruptcy) because based on the financial figures I have seen, independance doesn't make any financial sense when prescriptions, residential care and tertiary education are all free. Then factor in the reduction in oil revenue in just 3 years time (all oil gone in 35 years time) plus the fact that big corporations WILL leave Scotland because their credit ratings and therefore share price will crash I really fear for them.
Has it started "to turn"? I saw a thread where people were exchanging views in a fairly balanced and reasonable manner. What did you add? I don't see any views but rather unfounded sneering at others. If you don't have anything to add you don't have to post.IanM said:You see, this started as a nice, gentle thread and I hoped that it would continue in that manner.
How foolish of me. It's already started to turn.
Ian
mikebrownington said:They will either use Sterling (but not in a union) or start a currency. They are however adamant that we WILL be in a currency union despite what anyone else says.
Father Ted said:Im going to get crucified for saying this, but deep down I suspect the real reason is that inside every Scot is the burning desire to paint their faces blue, wave their bums at the Brits and shout ....
In the event etc. nobody would be able to stop Scotland using sterling (anyone can use any currency they choose), Isle of Man use it for example. Of course like IoM we wouldn't accept Scottish notes ironically.UKRob said:Simple question - and maybe someone will be able to tell me what the answer is - has anyone asked the Independence party to explain what their strategy is in the event of not being able to use sterling?
One thing is for sure - you cannot control economic policy if you don't control the purse strings.
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?