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Count of Undolpho said:In the case of farmers I don't think I'd use that expression, they don't have one of the highest suicide rates for nothing. The snowball effect of "giving them a fair crack" might be quite scary enough. Can you imagine the plight of the many if food prices reflected fair prices?
UKRob said:Shevecrat #100 - I agree with what you're saying but there's another element - the inbuilt inefficiency of certain countries farming methods. Taking France as probably the best example, their inheritence laws means that land gets split between siblings rather than kept intact - leading to smaller operations which, inevitably are less efficient. Add to this the cost of subsidising over-production (the infamous wine lake and butter mountain of years ago) and you have a situation where one nation is being susbsidised by the rest. Whether you see this as fair or unfair, depends on your standing regarding the EU as a whole, I suppose.
Count of Undolpho said:@shavecraft Perfectly explained and duly noted.
I think you might find we would still pay the tax wherever it ended up. The market reform would have to take on the whole system rather than just the food industry and somehow I don't think Laissez Faire Capitalism is the answer.
Not trying to distort your words by deleting the rest of your post - but that's exactly what I was trying to get at when I say the threat of a uk withdrawal is the only way to achieve significant change.Count of Undolpho said:The more I've looked into it the harder it looks to reform it. The pigs in the trough are definitely in there - I now see what you meant shavecraft - specific pigs rather than general ones.
Count of Undolpho said:Spent a (little) while trying to get a grip on the whole CAP thing and the best primer I found was BBC News CAP Q&A (2013)
The more I've looked into it the harder it looks to reform it. The pigs in the trough are definitely in there - I now see what you meant shavecraft - specific pigs rather than general ones.
As to an EU that we in Britain would prefer - I think that would probably end up like the United Kingdom London prefers.
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