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The Rolls will maintain you're set bevel & a sharp edge..The bevel you have set outwith the system will be maintained as the blade does go naturally flat inside the system & of course the Stropping will make it sharper for shaving...The Rolls System is designed to Hone the blade & Strop it in Tandem...That is to say..Before & after shaving you have to hone & strop it equally every time you use it..Around 30 laps a side on both the hone & strop..If you were using it every day you would get away with just honing it every other day or so according to some folks..Billy
Thanks. So I am actually looking to have 2 angles per side? The first bevel done outside of the Rolls. Then hone and strop the final cutting edge?
Tom
Thanks got it. I will keep at it. Can't wait to give it a go.The Rolls will maintain you're set bevel & a sharp edge..The bevel you have set outwith the system will be maintained as the blade does go naturally flat inside the system & of course the Stropping will make it sharper for shaving...The Rolls System is designed to Hone the blade & Strop it in Tandem...That is to say..Before & after shaving you have to hone & strop it equally very time you use it..Around 30 laps as side on both the hone & strop..If you were using it every day you would get away with just honing it every other day or so according to some folks..
Billy
Hollow ground blade..View attachment 16595
Not sure if this picture is clear enough. Was wondering how that edge compares to a shave ready wedge. There seems to be some slight waviness. Is that to be expected?
Thanks
Tom
Thanks Rob..I do need to get one of those ASAP ..I was just referring to the Shape of the Blade & Not the Edge or the Bevel & of Course You are correct as Always..Your Advice is Always Welcome Rob..Billy - if you don't already have one, it's worthwhile buying a jewellers loupe for inspecting the bevel on razors - a triplex 10x is good. It lets you see if there are any minor chips in the edge, but more importantly, you get to see how the edge improves with honing.
I'm not sure what you mean by 'natural curvature' - but the bevel on each side of the blade needs to be flat, and of course, the bevels must meet in order for the blade to be sharp. The recommended bevel angle for shaving is around 18 degrees and this is achieved from the geometry of the blade where width of blade (spine to edge) is about 3.5 x width of the spine. So with the honing attachment on the Heljestrand effectively being the spine width and measuring from the point that it hits the hone to the blade edge - you can draw that as a triangle and calculate the bevel angle.
Does anyone know what thread size the handle is for the Heljestrand?
I picked up a cheap one as it only has half a handle.
It is still completely usable as it is the correct half of the handle.
I was wondering if i might be able to find an adapter of some sort and use a standard handle.
The CV Heljestrand has its own thread size..I don't know what it is but I have never come across one that size before..They came apart so you have a short handle as well..I reckon you would need to Tap the head out to take a bigger thread for a Standard Handle..Does anyone know what thread size the handle is for the Heljestrand?
I picked up a cheap one as it only has half a handle.
It is still completely usable as it is the correct half of the handle.
I was wondering if i might be able to find an adapter of some sort and use a standard handle.
These are Awesome..You should be excited..The only folks that that are not excited by the Rolls are the folks that Cant be Bothered..I'm very excited about my recent purchases today after reading this review. I'll be back to annoy you on how to get the best out the wedge blade on these sets!! Lol
Sounding Good Tom..Once you get over the Extreme Caution Phase cause we all do it..Things start to get free & easy like..Like a Hollow Ground Straight it takes a moment to get used to..The Angle is very steep the exact same as a Straight & once the penny drops that you have to maintain that Angle things get easier..A Wee Tip that I got from my Brother when using a Straight helped me a lot..I just finished my third shave with my Rolls. I was able to get two passes this time. I am getting the blade sharper each time out. As I am using the Rolls sharpener this may take some time.
My first pass WTG went pretty good. I as very cautious about the angle. My face and neck went fairly smooth. My problem area under my jaw took extreme caution. No nicks or weepers so pass one was a success.
Pass two XTG went fine on the face. on my neck I usually go from ear to Adams Apple. I found though the Rolls cut better tho opposite way. Under my jaw went ok too. I finished my second pass with no blood. Another success.
I did a cleanup pass with my Bunny razor with a twin in it.
I ended up with a nice shave. I like the wedge blade shaves. I cannot wait until I get the blade dialed in to see what it can really do.
Tom
BillySounding Good Tom..Once you get over the Extreme Caution Phase cause we all do it..Things start to get free & easy like..Like a Hollow Ground Straight it takes a moment to get used to..The Angle is very steep the exact same as a Straight & once the penny drops that you have to maintain that Angle things get easier..A Wee Tip that I got from my Brother when using a Straight helped me a lot..
When you Touch your Face with the Rolls already have it on the Cutting Stroke..That is to say have it moving as you touch your face with it..Anytime that you stop ..Don't start again..Lift it from the face & repeat the procedure I have mentioned..Once you touch your face with it on the move..Keep it moving..Always keep it on the move & Don't Stop & Start as you would get away with a More Modern Safety Razor..This will prevent it from Digging In..
To me that's the Key to using a Straight Razor which you have there on a Stick..It will become 2nd Nature..I use this method with all my razors now..
Billy
Yeah..It is a Head Game Tom..Once that goes that's it..I was the same with a Straight Razor an All..The Truth be told these blades are more Dangerous when getting handled than when shaving with them..Billy
I did some more work on the blade last night. I will do more tonight. I plan on using it tomorrow. I will take all of your advise and put it to use. Thinking more about it today. I never really felt that I was in real danger of cutting myself. It is just a head game on myself.
I must say that it is smooth on the easy areas. I will stick with it for a few weeks. If I like it I will need to hunt down some razors that take "wedge blades" and find blades to pair with it.
Tom
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