name me some good gillette razors, bit confused

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Doesn't make a different to me as I take my geometry from the cap, so the blade is lined up the same regardless of comb. In many ways I think if I have lines in my lather my angle is wrong.

Exciting stuff! Go on! Get them polished up!
Is it best to super glue the ball end of the handle which has the crack on it on the old gillette?

Otherwise the ball end of the handle just falls off
 
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Two 'Old' and two 'New' < the New are long comb.
Look for a serial number on the top of the baseplate on the 'Old' razors and check the date code.
Had a look and can't see any serial numbers, just says gillette made in USA on both old gillette de razors

The ball end is a three piece standard razor but the ring one is a twist at the bottom and the top cap comes off
 
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@pjgh and anyone else, what's the best way to straighten the bent comb or two that the one old gillette has?

Btw how do they even manage to bend them? Just wear and tear and dropping them, not looking after them etc?
 
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Yep! Usually dropped ..

Do NOT use pliers! I've used a metal ruler before. Warm up the metal first by dunking in just boiled water briefly. Push the ruler between the teeth and gently pressure into place. Push the teeth, don't pull them around. Good luck!
 
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Is it best to super glue the ball end of the handle which has the crack on it on the old gillette?

Otherwise the ball end of the handle just falls off
Wrap a little plumbers tape around the insert for the ball end and press it in. Not too much or you'll expand the split. There's a more permanent fix packing epoxy in from behind, pulling the split shut tight with string, fine sand the epoxy that squeezed through and it'll look a load better. Naturally, you'll want to epoxy in the ball end, too. The key to this is to tie the string very tight to close the split while the epoxy sets.
 
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Most iconic for me is the Rocket HD. English flat bottom Tech is probably the best razor I have. Any of the Rockets are great. Would you like to try a Fatboy?
i would but i also want to buy one but not willing to pay the silly prices i seen on ebay lol

interesting you mention the rocket 500 HD as i think its good but i would like to know why is the rocket 500 HD the most iconic to you?

also rocket 500 HD vs tech, which do you prefer and why matey?
 

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It’s the handle on the HD - it’s simply perfect. Well executed yet not too fancy and beautifully weighted. Effective knurling too. It has everything it needs and nothing it doesn’t yet manages to look great just sitting on the shelf winking at me.

When I first joined the forum and became aware of the HD, I lusted after one. Yes, the Aristocrats have beautiful spiral knurling, the wider twist knob and that gorgeous Rhodium plate but the HD still has a similar heft, does the job equally well and in its heyday was more within reach of the ordinary man, like me.

As to the Tech, I bought one the BST here. It was the older English type with the heavier, slotted baseplate and the fat handle. I always felt that handle needed more weight. Eventually, I gave it away as my DE89 shaved better at the time but I never forgot it. Gillette made the Tech in various guises for decades so they must’ve got something right. As I’m a lover of vintage things, I ultimately got another just the same on the BST years ago and had it replated in its original nickel.

That handle though - still too damn light! The head works well on custom stainless handles but I kinda like things as original as they can be. Then I read somewhere that you can stuff the handle with tungsten putty which is normally used by carp fishermen to weight lines, etc. I decided what the heck, bought a wee tin for less than fiver off eBay and duly stuffed the handle. It is perhaps blasphemy but by ‘eck the extra weight, for me, turns an already very good razor into a truly excellent one.

Now my Tech is the best daily driver I have, narrowly winning out over my TTO’s which include the following: Aristocrat #22 in its original mint Rhodiium plate, the said Rocket HD, a Flair Tip Rocket that Matron has purloined as the knurling on this is the grippiest of all, an Aristocrat Jnr which has a different baseplate to the later Rockets and a very pretty 58 pattern Rocket. The last two need a replate in Nickel (Jnr has just a tiny bit of plate loss on the neck just under the head but the #58 has a large bit of brassing on the handle. These are my keepers.

I also have a vintage 7 o’Clock NEW which is less aggressive than some of its brethren such as the #77/88. I have it on an intact and solid ball end handle which I’m not convinced is original but I like the combination. This delivers a good shave too so it’ll go to Prestige in Mexborough with a few others accessories for a bath in Nickel. Again the handle could do with extra weight for my tastes.

I am sorely tempted to have my #58 redone in gold by Dave at Restored Razors in New Zealand. Perhaps one day if Matron allows. Again, that’s not the original finish but it’s my razor and I’ll do what I like. Besides, those lovely vertical ridges on the handle will look glorious in gold and I don’t have a gold razor in my collection.

Each of these British TTO’s offer a fairly similar shave as the heads are more or less the same but the handles differ and that’s the variety I love.

If it was just one then it would be the Tech albeit just. It is mild yet very efficient and easy to get to know plus the handle fettling raises it skywards. The angle is easy to find and everything just gels. Upgrade me to two and I’d add the Rocket HD over its fancier family. As things stand they’re all going nowhere except for the few that require refinishing in my eyes.

There’s also a Fatboy in its original, gorgeous case with the correct blade dispenser. Mr Fatty himself is in perfect working order and although the plating is fairly good, he could do with a replate for perfections sake. I’ll be moving him on eventually as I just don’t need an adjustable when nirvana has already been reached with what I have - Tech, TTO’s and number 7 NEW.

Sorry for such a long detailed post but you did ask and I had to do something whilst waiting on my chippy being delivered!

P.S. @saj1985 you may have a loan of the Fatboy if you promise to look after him. That’s if I can find the bugger!
 
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The Rocket HD500 was the only TTO that I kept, selling off a collection that consisted of pretty much every model of Rocket and Superspeed. The HD does indeed have just the perfect weight in the thicker handle. I had a really good Fatboy and a birth year Black Beauty, sold off as I didn't really like the shaves. But the Rocket HD500 ...
 
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It’s the handle on the HD - it’s simply perfect. Well executed yet not too fancy and beautifully weighted. Effective knurling too. It has everything it needs and nothing it doesn’t yet manages to look great just sitting on the shelf winking at me.

When I first joined the forum and became aware of the HD, I lusted after one. Yes, the Aristocrats have beautiful spiral knurling, the wider twist knob and that gorgeous Rhodium plate but the HD still has a similar heft, does the job equally well and in its heyday was more within reach of the ordinary man, like me.

As to the Tech, I bought one the BST here. It was the older English type with the heavier, slotted baseplate and the fat handle. I always felt that handle needed more weight. Eventually, I gave it away as my DE89 shaved better at the time but I never forgot it. Gillette made the Tech in various guises for decades so they must’ve got something right. As I’m a lover of vintage things, I ultimately got another just the same on the BST years ago and had it replated in its original nickel.

That handle though - still too damn light! The head works well on custom stainless handles but I kinda like things as original as they can be. Then I read somewhere that you can stuff the handle with tungsten putty which is normally used by carp fishermen to weight lines, etc. I decided what the heck, bought a wee tin for less than fiver off eBay and duly stuffed the handle. It is perhaps blasphemy but by ‘eck the extra weight, for me, turns an already very good razor into a truly excellent one.

Now my Tech is the best daily driver I have, narrowly winning out over my TTO’s which include the following: Aristocrat #22 in its original mint Rhodiium plate, the said Rocket HD, a Flair Tip Rocket that Matron has purloined as the knurling on this is the grippiest of all, an Aristocrat Jnr which has a different baseplate to the later Rockets and a very pretty 58 pattern Rocket. The last two need a replate in Nickel (Jnr has just a tiny bit of plate loss on the neck just under the head but the #58 has a large bit of brassing on the handle. These are my keepers.

I also have a vintage 7 o’Clock NEW which is less aggressive than some of its brethren such as the #77/88. I have it on an intact and solid ball end handle which I’m not convinced is original but I like the combination. This delivers a good shave too so it’ll go to Prestige in Mexborough with a few others accessories for a bath in Nickel. Again the handle could do with extra weight for my tastes.

I am sorely tempted to have my #58 redone in gold by Dave at Restored Razors in New Zealand. Perhaps one day if Matron allows. Again, that’s not the original finish but it’s my razor and I’ll do what I like. Besides, those lovely vertical ridges on the handle will look glorious in gold and I don’t have a gold razor in my collection.

Each of these British TTO’s offer a fairly similar shave as the heads are more or less the same but the handles differ and that’s the variety I love.

If it was just one then it would be the Tech albeit just. It is mild yet very efficient and easy to get to know plus the handle fettling raises it skywards. The angle is easy to find and everything just gels. Upgrade me to two and I’d add the Rocket HD over its fancier family. As things stand they’re all going nowhere except for the few that require refinishing in my eyes.

There’s also a Fatboy in its original, gorgeous case with the correct blade dispenser. Mr Fatty himself is in perfect working order and although the plating is fairly good, he could do with a replate for perfections sake. I’ll be moving him on eventually as I just don’t need an adjustable when nirvana has already been reached with what I have - Tech, TTO’s and number 7 NEW.

Sorry for such a long detailed post but you did ask and I had to do something whilst waiting on my chippy being delivered!

P.S. @saj1985 you may have a loan of the Fatboy if you promise to look after him. That’s if I can find the bugger!

Enjoyed reading that insightful post mate

Thanks for the offer, I'm good but very kind gesture of you to offer it for me to try out

I've got the gillette slim, black beauty long handle, tech think it's zamak post war (could be wrong don't remember exactly), also a ball end tech which I'm yet to use, that was mint condition in one of those old school cases with a mirror, tweezers etc, I assume that's going to perform the same as the zamak tech I got

Also got a gillette flair the standard silver one which again I'm yet to use, from what I understand I think it's meant to be mild and the red tip flair is meant to be the most aggressive our the flair tips

I agree the tech is one cracking razor, especially for the price you can get them for too, imo gives any vintage or modern razor a run for it's money

How much did you pay for your rocket 500 HD? I might have to try it again because I only used it once and want overly impressed but might do my next head shave with that, as you've inspired me lol

Which de blade do you like to pair with the rocket 500 HD?
 
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The Rocket HD500 was the only TTO that I kept, selling off a collection that consisted of pretty much every model of Rocket and Superspeed. The HD does indeed have just the perfect weight in the thicker handle. I had a really good Fatboy and a birth year Black Beauty, sold off as I didn't really like the shaves. But the Rocket HD500 ...
defo going to try using the rocket 500 HD now lol

Did you find the fatboy and black beauty to be about the same in terms of aggressiveness?
 
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