Ended up not using it, I went for my new to me Henckles...once again a square point...and once again I got two decent nicks :-( sorted the point now but I need to rememmber to round it a little before I use it if I get anymore square points...twice I have had nasty nicks with squares...both exactly same place, left cheek close to my ear and left cheek near the cheek bone, I didnt see or feel the first one at my ear, then as i cut my cheek bone I noticed the blood at my ear...every day is a learning day