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never seen or heard of grom ........ just when you think you know something .lol nice exampleOff-topic, since I mentioned it ... here's my Grøm! Not an anomaly but a brand that Gillette took over.
I thought Grom and 7 Oclock were owned by the same chap who owned Valet, which all ended up under Gillette. I thought and I may be wrong, that the flat bottom was originally a 7 Oclock design, so although we refer to it as one of the NEW's, it wouldn't have been. As I say I might be wrong.
"One offs" are not unknown in the manuf. world as imperfect humans operate imperfect machines. Sometimes they are very valuable ...
Do you own a Tech "hybrid", pjgh?
7 O'Clock was certainly Valet. I have one. It's very likely that the flat bottom was a design outside of Gillette - they bought it and used it. Rather than stamping out the competition: 7 O'Clock, GROM, Minora, etc; they simply continued the brand names and applied a uniform set of products across the ranges. Sound marketing.
I mentioned above, a load of Damaskeenes made it through with 1902 stamped on the base (rather than 1912 - the Damaskeene is the 1912; 1912s are actually 1919s). I've seen 1912s with mis-stamped heads where the backs did not align with the cut out ...
... and that gives me pause for thought here.
Does anyone know how the dye for these would be made up? By that, I mean the metal shape that cuts out the base from sheet metal for it to then go down the line for bending and shaping, and presumably stamping? I thought the stamp might be an integral part of the dye, but thinking about that 1912, the stamping might well be done further down the line.
In this case, it's possible (probable?) that the 'New' stamp was left in the machine when they switched over to making the Tech.
I worked in food packaging once and when the lines switched over, there's always be a dozen or so boxes or bags that were the new thing on the outside yet the former product still dropping through the machine on the inside. We'd discard those. It was dried cereals that we processed. I'm sure some would get out and M&S Premium brand would actually be a Netto Basics in the inside < truth be told, there was actually not a lot of difference, if any with some lines.
... so yes, a kinda hybrid New/Tech. It'd be even cooler if it was solid bar one side and combed the other.
Judging from this (and there are others that I cant find at the moment, at B&B) I'd say a long strip of brass was run under a roller that pressed the lettering on before it was die cut to the pattern and then press formed to shape, but that's just my WAG.I mentioned above, a load of Damaskeenes made it through with 1902 stamped on the base (rather than 1912 - the Damaskeene is the 1912; 1912s are actually 1919s). I've seen 1912s with mis-stamped heads where the backs did not align with the cut out ...
... and that gives me pause for thought here.
Does anyone know how the dye for these would be made up? By that, I mean the metal shape that cuts out the base from sheet metal for it to then go down the line for bending and shaping, and presumably stamping? I thought the stamp might be an integral part of the dye, but thinking about that 1912, the stamping might well be done further down the line.
In this case, it's possible (probable?) that the 'New' stamp was left in the machine when they switched over to making the Tech.
I worked in food packaging once and when the lines switched over, there's always be a dozen or so boxes or bags that were the new thing on the outside yet the former product still dropping through the machine on the inside. We'd discard those. It was dried cereals that we processed. I'm sure some would get out and M&S Premium brand would actually be a Netto Basics in the inside < truth be told, there was actually not a lot of difference, if any with some lines.
... so yes, a kinda hybrid New/Tech. It'd be even cooler if it was solid bar one side and combed the other.
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