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Hax said:eneville said:Well, you can probably tell from my sig that I'm going to fight the corner for GNU/Linux. X hasn't screwed up on me for years, it's better now than it every has been. Maybe you're mixing up X with the window manager?
As I work with Linux/Solaris boxes for my day job, doing anything with Windows is painful and I'll often pull faces at the computer trying to make something dead simple in unix happen on Windows.
You're pretty much on your own when there's a BSOD during boot on windows, it's the opposite case with unix.
Nope, not confusing X with windowing manager, I *do* know the difference after years of developing chartplotters running Linux as the OS
As for the BSOD comment, Windows still gives you the chance to boot into safe mode. Linux gives you the chance to boot to a console prompt (if you know how to edit the boot line that is). Linux = no GUI, just console and keyboard. Windows = basic GUI with most, internet to look up help, etc...
I know which I would recommend for most users who aren't comfortable with console commands, which is a large proportion of the people who use PCs these days. Hell, I know developers who've struggled with the console be it Windows or Linux, most don't have to get near it these days.
I agree that Linux is a nice OS, I just don't think it suitable for everyone.... Yet...
eneville said:Anyway, Linux crashes much less IMO, I've not seen a single user boot on my desktop since I had an AMD K7 so maybe a decade ago and that was through faulty hardware. The biggest X problem IMO is nvidia drivers. That aside, I've used Linux installs for users that are so clueless about their desktops. Using something like Ubuntu is just fine for this sort of user. The only thing they need to know is where the firefox icon is. Works just fine, not heard any complaints, I wouldn't expect them to start using Mutt as their primary email client or to start writing documents with LaTeX or anything crazy just yet.
osdset said:Just to chime in with my observations, as I have stated before I am running a lite version of Linux from a USB drive, the only reason I started using it was because of a total crash running windows no BSOD, no anything, a black screen with a flashing cursor. I had already downloaded linux, and installed it on the USB drive and tried it out as a backup for an event like this, it got me on the internet almost instantly, and more importantly allowed me access to the original drive.
What I like about it is it's 'virgin' at boot up it only ever exists as an OS in ram so the core program never changes, anything I change like wallpaper, the way the desktop is, browser bookmarks etc, are saved separately in a 'slackosave' file on my external HD.
Once I get to the bottom of my original problem with Windows, or my hardware, I will re-install it, there are Windows programs I cannot do without, the Ideal situation for me would be to have my day to day stuff running on say Win 7, with the ability to hot swap straight over to LInux without a reboot for using the internet.
One thing I am impressed with is how effortless Linux finds hardware and installs it, Vista was a huge PITA with issues like unsigned drivers, Win 7 was a vast improvement over Vista in this regard, LInux is a breeze in comparison, and NO NAG SCREENS! AT last I have an OS that does not try to hold my bloody hand at every decision I make!
Both systems have their pros and cons, I expect that eventually Linux will evolve a GUI that's as user friendly as Windows, and one BIG plus with LInux is, it's free!
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