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Big.Dave said:I've just seen a news report that the European Court of Human Rights will not reopen the case on the extradition of these men to the US.
Heres the news report BBC News
What are your thoughts on this.
dodgy said:Big.Dave said:I've just seen a news report that the European Court of Human Rights will not reopen the case on the extradition of these men to the US.
Heres the news report BBC News
What are your thoughts on this.
I quickly looked at that article. Now it's not got so much to do with guilt or innocence, as much as if those guys can legally be sent to the US for trials. Turns out they can, but there's some things with at least one guy that makes some questions pop up in my head.
Seems like most of the info on one case was given straight to the US, instead of your own CPS. Why that was is now being investigated by an MP or two over there (whatever that is). From first glance, it looks like a kinda dark alley sorta deal, but who knows.
This guy may have a valid point, and he's the only one I read about. I'd have to do lots more digging to see what was really going on here with all these cases being sent away for trials.
So I really can't say if the extraditions are all fair or not. Here's a link to that one guy I mentioned, and what his story is. Maybe you can tell me what's right and wrong with his case, because I'm kinda stumped at the moment. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17606337
Martin
JohnnyO said:Whilst entirely sharing your thoughts on career politicians, Jamie, I've taken the opposite tack and have never failed to vote in any local, regional, national or European election since I was 21 whenever I was able to.
Even though on occasion I've written, "None of the Above" across my ballot paper. Being by birth and practise one of those so cheerily (allegedly) dismissed by one of the elite who govern us as being a mere plebian I greatly value my hard earned right to vote. It wasn't won easily by my ancestors back in the days of "rotten boroughs" so it pleases me to enjoy & (ab)use it.
Having said which I'm against compulsory voting under threat of a penalty and do regret that so many now, entirely understandably, feel that their voice counts for nothing & the current political processes are irrelevant to how so many of us exist.
JohnnyO. \:icon_razz:
over5feet said:So is this rendition or extradition? you have to be very careful as both the british and the US have been accused of both.
Johnus said:You may find this article interesting if your concerned about who knows what about us. Scary; past that.
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/
pugh-the-special-one said:I don't know what's worse the fact that we vote in MP's and form a goverment that we all must pay for, that as very little power, when the European parliament in Brussels and the court of human rights can tell everyone in the UK what to do, why do we need MP's, we now have so many tiers of democracy through out the UK and Europe, after voting in every local and general election and now aged 53 I have now sworn never to vote again, I have absolutely no faith in politics full stop.
Jamie.
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