YaQi 24mm 'Tuxedo' Synthetic

SeanC said:
Neither has enough to be bothersome in my experience

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donnie_arko said:
I've only got a Yaqi Plissoft style 24mm synth and it's not really springy, not like my Omega S10065 which is very springy and not the most pleasant brush to use.
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Thank you both. I think i will wait for my 1st Yaqi plissoft to arrive before deciding further then. If i don't like the plissoft and i like the Yaqi best badger that i ordered, i think i will simply order a 2nd one.

My only synthetic is exactly the S10005, which is basically the same loft as the S10065 and while it's not bad, the springyness is what really gets into my nerves. I will never get used to it and if all synths are similar, i will stick to natural hair and keep the synths only as travel brushes.
 
My favourite synthetic is an Edwin Jagger Silvertip Fibre L brush (I don't like larger brushes).
I have tried several Plissoft fibre brushes, but don't like them; too soft and at the same time too springy.
The Omega S-brush and Hi-Brush knots I tried were definitely not for me.
I like the 2016 Whipped Dog 24mm synthetic, but not as much as I like the Edwin Jagger.

Which YaQi tuxedo knot size and shape would be best for me to order, given my preference for backbone and size?
I already know which handles I like :)

Thanks!
 
Eeyore68 said:
My favourite synthetic is an Edwin Jagger Silvertip Fibre L brush (I don't like larger brushes).
I have tried several Plissoft fibre brushes, but don't like them; too soft and at the same time too springy.
The Omega S-brush and Hi-Brush knots I tried were definitely not for me.
I like the 2016 Whipped Dog 24mm synthetic, but not as much as I like the Edwin Jagger.

Which YaQi tuxedo knot size and shape would be best for me to order, given my preference for backbone and size?
I already know which handles I like :)

Thanks!
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As far as I know there are no options in knot shape, only fibre.

The 24mm knots are on the large size in my opinion. Certainly larger than a WD 24mm, probably closer to a EJ / Muhle 25mm. Whether or not the same can be said about the 22mm I do not know.
 
Question for people who ordered Yaqi directly from China. On the package, what amount of value was written? The real one? Because i 've had an exchange of messages with Mr. Chen and he told me "not to worry about customs, because they usually write 1$ per brush on the parcel". Can you confirm?

Thing is, in Italy, this may actually turn against you, just like with the previous policy of writing "gift", which was abused to the point that now customs officials, if they see "gift" on a parcel, they WILL open it. I 've read they will also open parcels, where the declared value "doesn't convince them" and in that case they will either 1) block the parcel and send you a mail notice to provide them documentation proving the real value or 2) arbitrarily attribute a value to the parcel and make you pay customs fees according to that!

This China buying thing turns out more dangerous than i originally thought.
 
I am from Croatia and i order lots of stuff from China as well as USA.
I haven't seen laws in Italy but i searched for Uk and Croatian laws and since we're all in EU there is much things similiar. I think Italy should have somethi g like that as well. Anyway, if the item is sent by a private person not a company everything below 45 EUR (maybe little more i cannot remember) is not taxable or possible to apply customs to it. Also, everything above that but below 160 EUR can be only taxed (IVA in Italy) not customed. Chinese companies, at least those on eBay often send items as a private person.

I have never seen they open or ask for invoice for stuff from China cause it's all small values. Even if they do open it and ask you to provide the invoice you bring them the paypal payment or whatever proof of payment and the value on it is so small it cannot be taxed. They cannot estimate the value on it. But from expereince with over 100 items from China they don't open those small low value packages.
Trust me on this. It's not like you are ordering a feather shavette or a cell phone.


Edit- ok i didn't find much about italy and seems to me you have pretty low value that is not taxed - only 22 EUR and i can't see anything about the nature of the seller being it private or business.
https://www.agenziadoganemonopoli.gov.it/portale/ee/citizen/internet-purchases
But all in all no customs can't be applied on brushes, and most probable the value will be below the taxable amount.


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pimple8 said:
I am from Croatia and i order lots of stuff from China as well as USA.
I haven't seen laws in Italy but i searched for Uk and Croatian laws and since we're all in EU there is much things similiar. I think Italy should have somethi g like that as well. Anyway, if the item is sent by a private person not a company everything below 45 EUR (maybe little more i cannot remember) is not taxable or possible to apply customs to it. Also, everything above that but below 160 EUR can be only taxed (IVA in Italy) not customed. Chinese companies, at least those on eBay often send items as a private person.

I have never seen they open or ask for invoice for stuff from China cause it's all small values. Even if they do open it and ask you to provide the invoice you bring them the paypal payment or whatever proof of payment and the value on it is so small it cannot be taxed. They cannot estimate the value on it. But from expereince with over 100 items from China they don't open those small low value packages.
Trust me on this. It's not like you are ordering a feather shavette or a cell phone.

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Thanks. I think i am going to ask Mr. Chen if they send as private or as company. Because if it's company it's 22 EUR ceiling. Funny thing is that i already made an order and kept the product value (2 brushes) below 22, but in Paypal, it seems the cost of epacket was applied to the products instead of separate, so in Paypal i appear to have paid about 26 EUR, while in reality it was more like 21 EUR + shipping.

I am also a bit more worried about the Italian customs, because i read that we are a sort of "special case". Probably because many italian products have competition from chinese stuff and so the goverment wants to make it more difficult to enter the country. I have even read in these days, accounts of italian buyers, saying that some Chinese companies, didn't ship the parcel to Italy, but to UK first (China to Italy via UK), so that it could pass the UK customs instead of the italian ones. Because the UK customs are much looser and once in the UK the parcel is then considered "EU package" and thus it won't be inspected by the italian customs again for customs fees. Duh...

Thanks though. I have to check with Mr. Chen. Because if i like Plissoft, there is 1 italian shop that actually sells Razorocks, with prices between 15-25 EUR, plus 7 for shipping that i could consider. Problem is i don't like the handles much and it's like X2 the price of Yaqi, but on the other hand, you get delivery in 2 days without playing hide and seek or dealing with the italian post service... Decisions, decisions...

EDIT: This is why in every Yaqi brush description, there is a note:
"Parcels to Italy, Spain, Canada, Chile will be delay for days. If you mind this, please do not place your order."

Our customs aren't ordinary customs... :mad:

EDIT 2: I just found a "legalese" paper, which says that the customs, when not convinced about the indicated value, CAN, assign themselves, a value on the parcel, based on "price of similar products in the market". Also, it seems that in Italy, anything sent with express courier or above 2kg, is stopped and inspected. Parcels sent via ordinary mail and light, are less likely to be inspected...
 
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Yeah, small packages are not frequently opened. If you pay for a Yaqi 10 usd they most probably write much less value on the package, plus it being very small it will not go to checking.
I have a friend who ordered a Feather from Japan valued 100USD but the package was declared as 20USD and there was no customs fee. I bought a Rockwell razor valued 55USD and package was declared as 30USD and from a company and no taxes or customs were applied. It's hard for them to find a similiar value of the product even if they open it. Especially for a yaqi brush. If you were ordering a mobile phone most probably it would be different, they have all those catalogue values to compare.
Anyway, your best option is to order it and wait, i am pretty sure there won't be taxes on 1-2 brushes.

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pimple8 said:
Yeah, small packages are not frequently opened. If you pay for a Yaqi 10 usd they most probably write much less value on the package, plus it being very small it will not go to checking.
I have a friend who ordered a Feather from Japan valued 100USD but the package was declared as 20USD and there was no customs fee. It's hard for them to find a similiar value of the product even if they open it. Especially for a yaqi brush.
Anyway, your best option is to order it and wait, i am pretty sure there won't be taxes on 1-2 brushes.

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I have already made 1 order (1 plissoft + 1 best badger). I hope you are right. On Nov11, some Yaqi brushes will be on sale discounted. I am tempted to make a 2nd order with only synthetics. To be honest, i am tempted also to get a two band and a silvertip badger, but i am probably pushing my luck and should wait to see how things go with previous orders first. I 've never ordered extraEU before. Now with wetshaving, i have 2 extraEU orders already. Funny thing is, 300 Voskhods are stuck since October 28 in the customs. I don't know, they are suspicious the blades might be covered in gold and pondering whether to make me pay for them?
 
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I never had issues with the Dutch customs for packages from China or Russia. On the other hand, almost everything from the USA is inspected. And they managed to lose two valuable Sheaffer Snorkel pens! They were sent insured, but still. Of course their customer service didn't care ...

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Obelix said:
I have already made 1 order (1 plissoft + 1 best badger). I hope you are right. On Nov11, some Yaqi brushes will be on sale discounted. I am tempted to make a 2nd order with only synthetics. To be honest, i am tempted also to get a two band and a silvertip badger, but i am probably pushing my luck and should wait to see how things go with previous orders first. I 've never ordered extraEU before. Now with wetshaving, i have 2 extraEU orders already. Funny thing is, 300 Voskhods are stuck since October 28 in the customs. I don't know, they are suspicious the blades might be covered in gold and pondering whether to make me pay for them?
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Thanks for the info on the discount for yaqi on 11 Nov. Will order some then :D
As far as Yaqi goes, I am pretty sure they don't send the invoice in the package and declare a smaller value so you won't have issues with customs. What I have seen from experience it usually has no problem, even with more valued DE razors. Customs don't estimate the values on it. But then again, don't know much about Italy. You'll see shortly :D

Regarding 300 Voskhods, possibly they view it as a large quantity intended for sale. If they do not arrive shortly they will probably ask you to provide the invoice or apply taxes on it, if they are not from the EU.
 
Yaqi have a 26mm fan shaped Tux brush which looks nice

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Eeyore68 said:
I never had issues with the Dutch customs for packages from China or Russia. On the other hand, almost everything from the USA is inspected. And they managed to lose two valuable Sheaffer Snorkel pens! They were sent insured, but still. Of course their customer service didn't care ...

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Pitralon forever - Real pens have a nib - If it doesn't tick, it's not a watch.
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In the last days, i 've read enough horror stories about italian customs that i will think twice before ordering again from extraEU. Too much delay, too much hassle, too many problems dealing with the post service. I much rather prefer dealing with express couriers. I have 2 extraEU packages right now, i am already burnt out. I think that if i like the Yaqi plissoft i ordered, i will just order a 2nd brush from local Amazon. Rebranded as "Luxury shaving" brush, but it's a 22mm Yaqi with the "marble" handle. Costs 20 EUR, but i won't have to deal with all this mess or the regular postman, who is so lazy that often doesn't even bother to ring or to enter the private road all the way to the mail box and just leaves the mail on the outerdoor, like today, where he left a bunch of bills, all soaked with water, because it's rainning and apparently he wasn't in the mood of actually reaching all the way to the mail box...
 
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Recieved my Virginia Sheng Tuxedoish brush. In terms of badger I would describe Yaqi as a silvertip and Virginia Sheng as a two band finest, so fibre a bit thicker, backbone more of it, tips not as soft. Different strokes for different folks, I like it, more brush less hugged by a cloud of lather feel :)
 
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