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I used that book (albeit in hard copy) when doing a leadership and management course during my Fire and Service time...
...I have just downloaded the book so looking forward to reading it although I have a long reading list at the moment! I am currently wading through over 400 free classic books on Amazon at the moment to see which ones catch my eye; many gems...
 

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Heads up - the BBC this weekend have done a two part adaption of Vasily Grossman's 'Stalingrad' - you can get it via the app - I'm a big fan of Grossman - his 'A Writer at War' is one of the most affecting things I have ever read. I think 'Stalingrad' was only translated into English last year - he wrote it in 1950. The battle for Stalingrad exerts a gruesome fascination - unspeakable depravity - fighting room to room - house to house - brick by brick - Stalin's final stand - no matter the cost - their back to the river - no retreat - a favoured weapon of the Russian troops - was a sharpened spade. Grim. Bizarre stories - the Germans to a large degree - initially anyway - had air superiority - when the Stukas started bombing - both sides took shelter in the same trenches - a temporary truce - then they got back out and started trying to kill each other again. Civilians continued to survive there - holed up in cellars - boiling up wallpaper for the nutritional content - stories of cannibalism are many. The Germans lost - the Russians just had more bodies to throw at it - literally - failing to learn from the example of Napoleon - you can't defeat Russia - its too big and there are too many Russians - the weather. Ultimately - Operation Uranus - encircling Von Paulus troops - a fatal wound the Nazis couldn't recover from. Not many of the 250,000 odd troops taken prisoner saw home again. See what you think yourself - cheers - I.

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Heads up - the BBC this weekend have done a two part adaption of Vasily Grossman's 'Stalingrad' - you can get it via the app - I'm a big fan of Grossman - his 'A Writer at War' is one of the most affecting things I have ever read. I think 'Stalingrad' was only translated into English last year - he wrote it in 1950. The battle for Stalingrad exerts a gruesome fascination - unspeakable depravity - fighting room to room - house to house - brick by brick - Stalin's final stand - no matter the cost - their back to the river - no retreat - a favoured weapon of the Russian troops - was a sharpened spade. Grim. Bizarre stories - the Germans to a large degree - initially anyway - had air superiority - when the Stukas started bombing - both sides took shelter in the same trenches - a temporary truce - then they got back out and started trying to kill each other again. Civilians continued to survive there - holed up in cellars - boiling up wallpaper for the nutritional content - stories of cannibalism are many. The Germans lost - the Russians just had more bodies to throw at it - literally - failing to learn from the example of Napoleon - you can't defeat Russia - its too big and there are too many Russians - the weather. Ultimately - Operation Uranus - encircling Von Paulus troops - a fatal wound the Nazis couldn't recover from. Not many of the 250,000 odd troops taken prisoner saw home again. See what you think yourself - cheers - I.

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Thanks for this. I read Antony Beaver's Stalingrad and Berlin; some of the imagery has stayed with me. It will be good to get Vasily Grossman's perspective. I can see why many still revere Stalin for saving Russia from total annihilation, despite the unbelievable ruthlessness, brutality and sacrifice required to win. After reading Hugh Trevor Roper's Table Talk, I can understand why Russia knew it was in an absolute existential fight for its continued existence and why Germany believed control of the East was required for its own existence. I suspect the full story of Stalingrad has yet been told and may never be.
 

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Heads up - the BBC this weekend have done a two part adaption of Vasily Grossman's 'Stalingrad' - you can get it via the app - I'm a big fan of Grossman - his 'A Writer at War' is one of the most affecting things I have ever read. I think 'Stalingrad' was only translated into English last year - he wrote it in 1950. The battle for Stalingrad exerts a gruesome fascination - unspeakable depravity - fighting room to room - house to house - brick by brick - Stalin's final stand - no matter the cost - their back to the river - no retreat - a favoured weapon of the Russian troops - was a sharpened spade. Grim. Bizarre stories - the Germans to a large degree - initially anyway - had air superiority - when the Stukas started bombing - both sides took shelter in the same trenches - a temporary truce - then they got back out and started trying to kill each other again. Civilians continued to survive there - holed up in cellars - boiling up wallpaper for the nutritional content - stories of cannibalism are many. The Germans lost - the Russians just had more bodies to throw at it - literally - failing to learn from the example of Napoleon - you can't defeat Russia - its too big and there are too many Russians - the weather. Ultimately - Operation Uranus - encircling Von Paulus troops - a fatal wound the Nazis couldn't recover from. Not many of the 250,000 odd troops taken prisoner saw home again. See what you think yourself - cheers - I.

@Barry Giddens @Scotshave @Ferry-shave @Missoni @Blademonkey@patw
Thanks for the heads up, sounds a worthy watch. P.
 

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Thanks for the heads up, sounds a worthy watch. P.
Sorry P. - I didn't make it clear - it was on the radio. I don't own a television - not that I can explain that to the wankers that do the TV license thing - Capita - out-sourcing c**ts - f**k you and the horse you rode into town on. Come ahead - you want to come into my flat? - get a warrant from a f**king Sheriff - which you won't be able to - you need to show probable cause I am breaking the law - which you can't. F**k you - you c**ts. I.
 
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Sorry P. - I didn't make it clear - it was on the radio. I don't own a television - not that I can explain that to the wankers that do the TV license thing - Capita - out-sourcing c**ts - f**k you and the horse you rode into town on. Come ahead - you want to come into my flat? - get a warrant from a f**king Sheriff - which you won't be able to - you need to show probable cause I am breaking the law - which you can't. F**k you - you c**ts. I.
:rolleyes: Yea bunch of Tommy tankers, no worries it was good to get that off your chest I expect. Have a good day and don't let the c£&@ts out there grind you down :) P.
 
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