Rolls Razor Query

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A rather timely post by @steve_keyte about Rolls Razors has jogged my memory on a question I meant to ask you all.

I picked up a Rolls Razor a few weeks ago on eBay and it seems to be in great condition. When I remove the blade from the case and try to slide it on to the handle it doesn't engage. Is the little ball bearing thing in the head of the head of the handle suppose to depress? Is it generally fiddly or should it be easy to slide the blade on to the handle?
 

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There are a few types of handle Chris, @Boycie83 , if it is a Ball bearing they can be stiff, oil it and work it, they can still be stiff, it needs to hold the blade during the shave, i place bottom of blade into "G" the tip upwards applying pressure to insert the top, it should slide in.
The Handle could screw apart easing a Pin rod back, load the blade and tighten, it may be worth giving it a soak, and be careful, bloody sharp.
T
 
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There are a few types of handle Chris, @Boycie83 , if it is a Ball bearing they can be stiff, oil it and work it, they can still be stiff, it needs to hold the blade during the shave, i place bottom of blade into "G" the tip upwards applying pressure to insert the top, it should slide in.
The Handle could screw apart easing a Pin rod back, load the blade and tighten, it may be worth giving it a soak, and be careful, bloody sharp.
T
Thanks Tony. I'll give it a good oiling like you suggested. I've taken a couple of pictures:

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Having overcome the blade fitment challenge, I think I've subsequently ruined the razor with some overly enthusiastic cleaning. CIF bathroom mousse and some disinfectant have left rust marks on the blade including the edge. I think it's beyond my skillset to salvage this:

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Having overcome the blade fitment challenge, I think I've subsequently ruined the razor with some overly enthusiastic cleaning. CIF bathroom mousse and some disinfectant have left rust marks on the blade including the edge. I think it's beyond my skillset to salvage this:

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I wouldn't have thought it would damage the edge that quick, give it a wee hone then a strop, I'm sure it will be fine. Mind don't batter it back and forward like a mad man. Let it gently touch hone or strop before pushing handle to the stop before going other way
 
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There are several types of handles, I have at least four types in my collection of Rolls razors and Rolls 'ephemera'
The first is the 'two piece' as the name suggests, the handle separates into two sections by unscrewing, the bottom section had a spring loaded rod which passes up through the top section of the handle, once the handle is assembled loosely, the blade is inserted into the hook of the top section and the two halves of the handle tightened together, the spring loaded rod bears against the blade and the spring pressure provides the pressure to hold the blade in place. The common failing of this type is that the spring loaded rod corrodes into the bottom section of the handle seizing solid, thus, the spring loading is lost. It is possible to dismantle the handles completely to free off the corroded parts. Yhis type of handles was made in plated brass or aluminium.
The second type is a one piece solid handle, similar in appearance to the 'two piece' and it is a solid assembly with a spring loaded ball in the blade hook, the blade is gently forced into the hook, depressing the ball and this holds the blade in place.
The third type is a one piece telescopic, as the name suggests, the handle telescopes into itself to about half of its extended length, the blade is secured by a spring loaded ball in the same manner as the one piece solid handle.
The fourth type is a variation on the telescopic handle, a two piece arrangement which can be distinguished by the top section of the handle having hexagon flats around it where the top section telecopes into the bottom section, the top section unscrews once extended to reveal the spring loaded plunger arrangement which applies pressure to the blade, the ball which bears against the blade is a small machines component, one end had a dome machined on it and the other a spigot which engages into a short spring, the other end on the spring fits over a machined projection in the bottom handle section, when the handle is assembled and the blade inserted into the hook, tightening the two sections of the handle together causes the spring to compress and exert pressure onto the blade, holding it in place.
I can upload pictures of the four types of handle if anyone wants to see the different types.

Steve
 
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Having overcome the blade fitment challenge, I think I've subsequently ruined the razor with some overly enthusiastic cleaning. CIF bathroom mousse and some disinfectant have left rust marks on the blade including the edge. I think it's beyond my skillset to salvage this:

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I would think that blade will clean up with little effort, I had a lot worse made shave ready with a bit of work
Steve
 
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