Please Help. Newbie to the forum and going desperate for some help

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What razor and soap / cream are you using? How's your lather?

If you're feeling that a blade is too sharp your angle's probably off which would also explain why you seem to be missing patches and irritating your skin.
 
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Hello guys thank you so much for your reply’s.

Right now I’m using a Gillette Tech razor, Tabac Soap, and razorock synthetic brush. I don’t think it’s a reaction of the soap because I have been using this soap with the voskhod blade that was the only time it went well for me. I think the lather is quite good. I’ve worked really hard to get a slick lather practicing on my hand on Off shaving days. I also shave with cold water because I felt with the voskhod that it helped with the irritation on the chin. I also have a merkur 34c and a fatip grande. I bough those razors from other suggestions. I do have other soaps besides tabac. I just wanted to keep with one soap and not change that much just to see which blade would be good for my skin. I can chance to whatever other soap you guys recommend.


Here is my routine:

PRE-SHAVE
• Put Brush in Mug with WARM Water
• Shower with WARM water
• Wash face with warm water in shower
• Don’t towel dry the face after shower
• Start Preparing your Lather (I use “another cut above vídeo lather)
https://youtu.be/ecoUdtWxQxo
• After the shower soak face with cold water
• Apply remaining's of lather soap on face with hands and gently scrub face with hands
• Apply REALLY COLD TOWEL on face and leave on for 1-2 min
o Take off lather with towel
• Apply Pre-shave Cream PREP Original
• Start 1st pass lather

LATHERING ROUTINE
• Take out brush from mug and shake water off to leave it damp but not dry
• Start swirling lightly the bristles on the dry soap for around 30 seconds to gather enough soap where it is sticky and pasty.
o NOTE: You NEED to dip the tip of the bristles in water once or twice depending on soap and brush while swirling
• Start lathering face BY PAINTING IT
• Dip tip of bristles and paint again
• NEED TO KEEP DOING THIS UNTIL LATHER IS BASICALLY WATERY AND YOU CAN SEE THROUGH LATHER YOUR FACE
• Start swirling your face and neck
o NOTE: You probably need to dip the tip of the bristles once or twice depending on soap and brush
• When soap looks like Yogurt and NOT Whip Cream, and it feels slick, then its ready to go.

POST-SHAVE ROUTINE
• Rinse Face with Warm Water
• Rinse Face with Cold Water
• Apply Alum Block with Cold Water
• After 1 min Rinse Off Alum block with Cold Water
• Dry Face gently with towel
• Apply The Cool Fox to help with irritation
• Apply Moisturize Balm Nivea sensitive skin
• Keep moisturizing between shaves as needed


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I would start by , cleaning all your equipment with a antibacterial soap , presuming you haven't all ready ? , not the blades of course . No pressure !!! , I have seen similar problems before with course hair , and sharper blades worked better for the guy ,who had the problem same as you , good luck stick at it,
regards ian
 
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So you pretty much have a two-hour shave routine. Simplify. Prep your face in the shower, splash a bit of warm water on your face prior to building your lather; lather your face like a normal person. The 34c is a great choice. I've never used the Tech or the fat tip. I know the Voskhod blades can be a bit tricky sometimes. Here's a thought, how often do you shave? It might be that the area around your chin might need more than 24 hours to recover from having a razor blade drug across it. When I first started with DE razors, I needed 36-48 hours to get a DFS without irritation around the chin and the corners of my mouth. See how it goes. And try shaving WTG only. A one-pass WTG might be all your face can handle at the moment.
 
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So you pretty much have a two-hour shave routine. Simplify. Prep your face in the shower, splash a bit of warm water on your face prior to building your lather; lather your face like a normal person. The 34c is a great choice. I've never used the Tech or the fat tip. I know the Voskhod blades can be a bit tricky sometimes. Here's a thought, how often do you shave? It might be that the area around your chin might need more than 24 hours to recover from having a razor blade drug across it. When I first started with DE razors, I needed 36-48 hours to get a DFS without irritation around the chin and the corners of my mouth. See how it goes.
Hello Steve Bowels. Correct I pretty much take around 1 and a half hours to shave. In my opinion it is pretty long as well but would do it if it gets rid of my chin irritation and a smooth shave. Obviously it’s not the case.

I shave every other day to let the irritation on my chin heal. It used to be worse. I used to shave at the beginning 1 a week because of the chin irritation.

Thanks


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Get yourself a Muhle R89, or an EJ DE-89. I think you might just need a milder razor. The old Tech and Fat Tip are much more aggressive, and are for experienced wet shavers. Your grandfather didn't have a choice. He had to suffer with irritation and bits of toilet paper staunching the razor cuts on his face. You do have a choice. Get a modern mild razor until you know how to use the vintage ones without engaging in a self-sacrifice every other morning. BTW, your shaving routines shouldn't take more than 20-30 minutes.
 
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You won't find a milder blade than the VOSKHOD TEFLON, which makes it the ideal blade for beginners. So stick with it.

Usually, as the Tech razor is a mild razor, you tend to use more pressure than necessary. But don't use any pressure and try to find the right angle by listening to the audio feedback.

I am using myself a Tech for several weeks now, and although I consider myself an experienced wet shaver, I needed some time to master it. Its tolerance range for the right angle is quite small, but once you find the 'sweet spot', you will get the smoothest shave that is possible.

I had similar issues with the R89 razor when I started wetshaving. Finding a mild blade that works for you in combination with using only cold water and 'clean' software was the crucial point. From there on, you only have to improve your technique.
 
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Hello guys thank you so much for your reply’s.

Right now I’m using a Gillette Tech razor, Tabac Soap, and razorock synthetic brush. I don’t think it’s a reaction of the soap because I have been using this soap with the voskhod blade that was the only time it went well for me. I think the lather is quite good. I’ve worked really hard to get a slick lather practicing on my hand on Off shaving days. I also shave with cold water because I felt with the voskhod that it helped with the irritation on the chin. I also have a merkur 34c and a fatip grande. I bough those razors from other suggestions. I do have other soaps besides tabac. I just wanted to keep with one soap and not change that much just to see which blade would be good for my skin. I can chance to whatever other soap you guys recommend.


Here is my routine:

PRE-SHAVE
• Put Brush in Mug with WARM Water
• Shower with WARM water
• Wash face with warm water in shower
• Don’t towel dry the face after shower
• Start Preparing your Lather (I use “another cut above vídeo lather)
• After the shower soak face with cold water
• Apply remaining's of lather soap on face with hands and gently scrub face with hands
• Apply REALLY COLD TOWEL on face and leave on for 1-2 min
o Take off lather with towel
• Apply Pre-shave Cream PREP Original
• Start 1st pass lather

LATHERING ROUTINE
• Take out brush from mug and shake water off to leave it damp but not dry
• Start swirling lightly the bristles on the dry soap for around 30 seconds to gather enough soap where it is sticky and pasty.
o NOTE: You NEED to dip the tip of the bristles in water once or twice depending on soap and brush while swirling
• Start lathering face BY PAINTING IT
• Dip tip of bristles and paint again
• NEED TO KEEP DOING THIS UNTIL LATHER IS BASICALLY WATERY AND YOU CAN SEE THROUGH LATHER YOUR FACE
• Start swirling your face and neck
o NOTE: You probably need to dip the tip of the bristles once or twice depending on soap and brush
• When soap looks like Yogurt and NOT Whip Cream, and it feels slick, then its ready to go.

POST-SHAVE ROUTINE
• Rinse Face with Warm Water
• Rinse Face with Cold Water
• Apply Alum Block with Cold Water
• After 1 min Rinse Off Alum block with Cold Water
• Dry Face gently with towel
• Apply The Cool Fox to help with irritation
• Apply Moisturize Balm Nivea sensitive skin
• Keep moisturizing between shaves as needed


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Sheesh. So much work. and far too much work to the skin!

You have the stubble of a boar so lets be mindful of that!,
WS blades hate me. I can't use them.

Using Murkur 34c/Tabac/Feather.

No need to faff about. Have a simple pre shave wash with soap and water. (This has a hge impact on the shave imo.) Cold water shaves are good for sensitive skin btw.
Using a mostly dry brush on the soap (no need to bloom) load it up well. Wet face. Face lather. Keep dipping the brush in water and going at it until you've got a decent bloom. ~Shouldn't take more than a minute.
Using your 34c, no pressure and watching the angle, go up, down and across the face in three passes. Rinse face and Reapply lather at every pass.

Don't chase the shave.
Rinse and use a alcohol splash and then a AS balm afterwards.

Perhaps limit your shaves to 2-3 times a week.


If shaving is a chore, its because you are doing it wrong.
 
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