Multiple SE or a mutant half DE???? a safety razor you might not have know was coming..

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I'm not sure what it adds?

Will it reduce the number of passes - probably not as people will still want to go WTG, XTG and maybe ATG based on preference

Will it be smoother - probably not as @Holyzeus has said, the first blade will probably remove most of the lather

On the plus side, it allows for three levels of aggressiveness in one razor, but that's not much different from an adjustable.

It actually becomes more expensive to run than a normal DE or SE or even a half blade SE such as the Rocnel.

I'm intrigued. I'd like to know how it performs, but I'm a little sceptical as to what the benefits will be. I'm all for innovation though and would be happy to be shown otherwise however.
So this is what i'm thinking. With wet shaving proper those of us that only ever knew of the fixed angle of blades locked in to in cartridge had to re learn how to shave understanding the angle to come in at to get your bbs. And with every tool be it agressive or mild de,se or strainght they all have their own learning curve and everyones face having its own terrain you end up with own best angel. So there blades are locked in at a fixed angel like the cartridge style. And the blade they'll be using will be sharp as fook. So my prediction is with the science of hysteresis applied to the first blade pulling the hair up and the second cutting deeper and the third cutting even deeper you'll be loosing a fair bit of skin per shave, cos you'll have to press harder to get that close shave. And what do we know about pressing a de hard to ones skin? Yep razor burn like hell fire and bleeders and weepers and blood loads of blood lol
 
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Initially, some glea that it wasn't yet another FEATHER holder. Half DE, fine. It looks to hold them firm with minimal exposure ... and then it struck me: it's a replaceable cartridge. Now, that in itself is not actually a bad thing - yes, there's all the usual negatives, but then there's the positives: you're not throwing away cartridges, it's cheap to refill, it's customisable, not just blade choice, but blade number.

You know what? I like the concept. Not enough to buy into it, mind as the Gillette Guard does pretty much the same thing in the end and costs pence anyway.
 
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Initially, some glea that it wasn't yet another FEATHER holder. Half DE, fine. It looks to hold them firm with minimal exposure ... and then it struck me: it's a replaceable cartridge. Now, that in itself is not actually a bad thing - yes, there's all the usual negatives, but then there's the positives: you're not throwing away cartridges, it's cheap to refill, it's customisable, not just blade choice, but blade number.

You know what? I like the concept. Not enough to buy into it, mind as the Gillette Guard does pretty much the same thing in the end and costs pence anyway.
So the guard worth a go then? Can you compare it to any other shave? And I totally agree it will appeal to some for novelty, for some who just want to give it a try and more power to the them. Shaving is subjective each to their own
 

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the problem is, half the people who buy it will load up with feather blades split into halves, or load up with van der hagen/timor/merkur blades...
And if those who load it with poor blades have any sense, they will try different ones until they find one that suit their face, something you can't really do with many of the main stream cartridge razors such as the Fusion. That factor there is key to its success if you ask me. You need to educate that not all blades are the same, and all should be well for it.

It is a familiar (ish) design to most, so isn't going to scare them. It is apparently affordable (if you can call nearly $80 for the razor affordable) but requires a decent initial hit to start saving (although said savings will come quick and the handle will pay for itself in no time).

Could be one to watch :)
 
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So this is what i'm thinking. With wet shaving proper those of us that only ever knew of the fixed angle of blades locked in to in cartridge had to re learn how to shave understanding the angle to come in at to get your bbs. And with every tool be it agressive or mild de,se or strainght they all have their own learning curve and everyones face having its own terrain you end up with own best angel. So there blades are locked in at a fixed angel like the cartridge style. And the blade they'll be using will be sharp as fook. So my prediction is with the science of hysteresis applied to the first blade pulling the hair up and the second cutting deeper and the third cutting even deeper you'll be loosing a fair bit of skin per shave, cos you'll have to press harder to get that close shave. And what do we know about pressing a de hard to ones skin? Yep razor burn like hell fire and bleeders and weepers and blood loads of blood lol
The way I read how the Leaf razor works is that the blades are actually staggered. The leading blade is more aggressive than the next, and so on. Which throws everything you just wrote out the window.


I have no idea if it will work as well in practice as it does in theory, but it looks workable to me. I decided to back it, but will give it more thought and might back out before they bill me at the end of the fundraising.
 
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I rather like the idea.
An adjustable.
With all of those postions and all of the different DE blades available, it is pretty fine-tunable.
Surely there will be something that suits most people.
(if it works like they say it does obviously)
Also cheap to run and you are not filling landfill with plastic cartridges.
I wonder how aggressive it gets.
 
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If I'd seen this when I was looking to escape expensive cartridges, before discovering DE as the alternative, I'd have been very tempted. It does seem a bit pricey to attract people away from their cartridge systems. There's an obvious long term saving but it's a pricey gamble if it turns out to be crap.

I don't think it's really pitched at fanatical shavers like ourselves, it's an alternative cheaper option for the millions of cartridge users out there. Big market to tap into with the right product.

Good luck to them, it looks good on paper!


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