Moughton or Dalmore sharpening stones / hones

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A question I was asked and did nothing but to confirm my ignorance, so I am asking in turn.
Has anyone heard of or used sharpening stones sourced from Moughton or Dalmore quarries ? I did use Walsh slate but I never heard of these.
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I Am No Expert on Welsh Slate Stones..I Do Know that Some Can Get Underestimated in Terms of Finishing Capacity..I have a Yellow Lake BRAND Welsh Yellow Lake which is NOT the Same Stone as Often Sold as A Yellow Lake Stone from a Particular Place..This Stone I have has a 20 K + Finishing Capacity with Oil..Easy..I Was Gobsmacked to be Honest..Its as Easy to Use as a Current Synthetic..o_O

The One thing I Do Know is that Welsh Slates Can Vary a Lot through Talking to Forum Members about them..They are Quite Popular in Some Quarters these Days for a Progression although I Only Use My Stone Purely as a Finisher..Other than that I Don't Know Much about the Bigger Picture..Dalmore Stones are from Scotland I Believe like the Scotch Dalmore Blue for Example which is a Medium Grit Stone..:D
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi8haf925XXAhUMthoKHX0-D8cQFgg4MAA&url=http://straightrazorplace.com/honing/18127-dalmore-blue.html&usg=AOvVaw32e3fmF1KUtELrq162G6OI

Billy
 
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I bought two stones from that well known e-bay seller few years back one of them is llyn mellyn and claimed to be around 12K and the other one is 8-10K and can't remember the name, as @Fergiebilly mentioned the llyn mellyn(yellow lake) stone I have is very different from the other Yellow Lake I have in the yellow cardboard box.
I don't know if @barbiere is asking about these stones. If so; my opinion from my experience is; Unless you have an extremely tight budget and don't want to venture in honing experience and want something very reliable with good feedback, then spend your money with synthetic hones like Naniwas.
But If you want to try natural stones, then these stones are OK, I'm saying OK, not very good or perfect! Because 1, they are affordable and inexpensive compared to other natural hones. 2- they do the job as in putting a shaving edge on the razor. After I finish honing a razor I don't use a pasted strop, I take it straight to canvas and leather and shave, and with this llyn mellyn 12K(alleged) the razor shaves but I can get more comfortable edges from other stones like Thüringen, Charnley forest.
I'm not an expert honer and my technique may be poor so that's just my experience and thoughts.
 
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Moughtons are a bit rare and go for a lot of money, Dalmore quarries produced a number of different stones. A Dalmore Blue and a Moughton are probably 4K tops if that when freshly dressed, I have a DB but have never used it on a razor. Slates are very variable and even those with the Yellow Lake branding, Salmen, vary from one pack to another and some are not even slate. Thuringians are just slate but very high quality and you would have to wade through a lot of Welsh slate to find something similar if at all. Inigo Jones would be worth contacting you can tell him what you want in size and what for, they have been mining for a long time and know a bit about slate. Hard to put a grit size on naturals because they hang on to their particles which just get blunter with use hence they cut finer. Naturals that keep on releasing grit are probably useless for razors so the recommendation for sticking to synthetics is a good one. Something about sharpening on millions of years old rocks appeals to me though.
 
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@AlanT2 What do you think of 'Genuine Yellow Lake Oilstone' branded stones? I got one in a Yellow cardboard sleeve, very similar to the one @Fergiebilly 's post but the colour of the sleeve/box is Yellow not Red.
That One You have is a Mid Grit Stone in the Yellow Package..The One I have in the Red Package is a Much Finer Grit Finisher..I May Be Lucky with this One as its a Finer Finisher in Terms of Finishing Capacity than My 16 K Escher Thuri or My 20 K Surgical Black Arkansas..That's Sayin Summit Cause an Arkie is One Hell of a Finisher in the Right Hands..:D

Billy
 
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I Am No Expert on Welsh Slate Stones..I Do Know that Some Can Get Underestimated in Terms of Finishing Capacity..I have a Yellow Lake BRAND Welsh Yellow Lake which is NOT the Same Stone as Often Sold as A Yellow Lake Stone from a Particular Place..This Stone I have has a 20 K + Finishing Capacity with Oil..Easy..I Was Gobsmacked to be Honest..Its as Easy to Use as a Current Synthetic..o_O

The One thing I Do Know is that Welsh Slates Can Vary a Lot through Talking to Forum Members about them..They are Quite Popular in Some Quarters these Days for a Progression although I Only Use My Stone Purely as a Finisher..Other than that I Don't Know Much about the Bigger Picture..Dalmore Stones are from Scotland I Believe like the Scotch Dalmore Blue for Example which is a Medium Grit Stone..:D
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi8haf925XXAhUMthoKHX0-D8cQFgg4MAA&url=http://straightrazorplace.com/honing/18127-dalmore-blue.html&usg=AOvVaw32e3fmF1KUtELrq162G6OI

Billy
Nice razor :D
 
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