First use of tallow based soap : an epiphany!

Remember when it comes to soap, there are different factors at play.
What kind of water you have, (hard or soft), the kind of brush you use, your technique, how it reacts with your pre shave oil
if you use it, etc.
They all work different for different people. So when you find one that works for you, put it on the list.
So tallow or not, you just have to try them for yourself to find what works best for you..
 
Boycie83 said:
Thanks Shubs. I never really see much about the Fine soaps. I wonder if they're another sleeper?
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I think Paul above answered it pretty well. I read somewhere that the Fine soaps had been reverse engineered to perform like Tabac with 'better' scents but some user reports stated the performance was good but not as good as Tabac.
As I don't mind the smell of Tabac, and with a stick a 1/3 or so of the price of Fine I've had no inclination to buy a Fine soap (and I prefer shaving sticks anyway)
 
Purely out of curiousity, I recently bought a pot of the new aloe vera Cella soap (the one in the green pot) because I like their normal red pot stuff so much. It's vegan and it's very good. It's quite thirsty when whipping up a lather but it's easily as good as the red pot stuff :D .
 
Boycie83 said:
I've never used any De Vergulde soaps
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Worth a go mate - in my experience - humble but very good - in the class of Lea, La Toja that sort of thing - good value but it works. They sell it as a stick in a plastic holder or in a tub - a Dutch institution - the company claim to have the oldest registered trademark in the world - 460+ years - it is vegetarian and there is a fairly large amount of kaolin in the formula - it needs a bucket of water - I've found - it doesn't really smell of much - other than soap - maybe vague citrus? They do a balm as well which I rate - I'm not sure where you might buy it in Britain - my best mate's other half is Dutch and he picked it up for me when over there. If you can find you should try it - cheers - I.
 
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Digimonkey said:
Worth a go mate - in my experience - humble but very good - in the class of Lea, La Toja that sort of thing - good value but it works. They sell it as a stick in a plastic holder or in a tub - a Dutch institution - the company claim to have the oldest registered trademark in the world - 460+ years - it is vegetarian and there is a fairly large amount of kaolin in the formula - it needs a bucket of water - I've found - it doesn't really smell of much - other than soap - maybe vague citrus? They do a balm as well which I rate - I'm not sure where you might buy it in Britain - my beat mate's other half is Dutch and he picked it up for me when over there. If you can find you should try it - cheers - I.
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Thanks Iain. There's an online Dutch shop called Cheapido (I kid you not) that sells the DVH range with reasonable shipping costs. I can see me buying some in the next few weeks.
 
Going slightly off topic here, but still soap and tallow/veg related!

I find that the old formulations (tallow) of hand/bath soap perform much better than the new Palm oil based soaps.

My main example is Imperial leather soap, this used to be superb, the bars lasted for an age and a day. Production moved from the UK to Thailand, the bars shrunk and it was reformulated using Palm oil instead of tallow. The result? Crappy bars that go all soggy and melt down the plughole well before their time. The lather isn't as good either. It's the same with most bars of soap in the UK, they used to be decent but are rubbish now.

Having said all that, there were a few brands of soap that were veg based and decent, Palmolive and pears to name a couple (the modern formulation had changed though and not as good! Typical!) Seems like everything is made lower quality now in the name of profits :(
 
Goatywoaty said:
My main example is Imperial leather soap, this used to be superb, the bars lasted for an age and a day. Production moved from the UK to Thailand, the bars shrunk and it was reformulated using Palm oil instead of tallow. The result? Crappy bars that go all soggy and melt down the plughole well before their time. The lather isn't as good either. It's the same with most bars of soap in the UK, they used to be decent but are rubbish now.
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Agree.

I only buy tallow soap bars for the bath. Asda & Morrisons their value branded soap bar, UK made nice mild scent, great soap. The unscented ones from Lidl/Aldi are pretty good as well, and if you see a Turkish shop the Duru soap blocks are tallow based and are rock hard and last for a very long time.
 
donnie_arko said:
Agree.

I only buy tallow soap bars for the bath. Asda & Morrisons their value branded soap bar, UK made nice mild scent, great soap. The unscented ones from Lidl/Aldi are pretty good as well, and if you see a Turkish shop the Duru soap blocks are tallow based and are rock hard and last for a very long time.
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Great info and nice to hear i'm not alone with my love of tallow bath soap :) I only use bars of NOS soap so I really shouldn't buy any more but i'm sorely tempted when its 65p for 3 bars in Asda, just looked it up!

I use my bars of soap in the shower and in the sinks but my Mrs uses shower gel and still buys the odd pump dispenser, though she has started to come round to using proper soap in the sink, this means soap always lasts quite a long time in our house. Very frustrating when I want to try out a different soap :)

The NOS soaps I have include: Camay, Imperial Leather, Zest, Fairy, Knights Castile, Pears, Fairy, Shield (Aqua and Ivory). If anyone remembers these soaps be good to hear your memories of them!
 
Goatywoaty said:
Great info and nice to hear i'm not alone with my love of tallow bath soap :) I only use bars of NOS soap so I really shouldn't buy any more but i'm sorely tempted when its 65p for 3 bars in Asda, just looked it up!

I use my bars of soap in the shower and in the sinks but my Mrs uses shower gel and still buys the odd pump dispenser, though she has started to come round to using proper soap in the sink, this means soap always lasts quite a long time in our house. Very frustrating when I want to try out a different soap :)

The NOS soaps I have include: Camay, Imperial Leather, Zest, Fairy, Knights Castile, Pears, Fairy, Shield (Aqua and Ivory). If anyone remembers these soaps be good to hear your memories of them!
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Why must it be frustrating if you want to try a different bar of soap! I have ten soaps in use in my bathroom and on any given day I can use what ever soap I wish to, live a little! I don't just use one shaving soap untill it's finished so it's the same with hand / bath soap. :) P.
Edit: some are tallow some are not but all are very good :) P.
 
I remember all of those soaps, they were all decent quality from what I can remember. My favourite was Imperial Leather but the new version is definitely softer. Zest had a very nice citrus smell and as a young boy growing up in the 70s who could forget the Shield advert, quite racy back in the day.

I now use L'Occitane Extra Gentle Milk Soap which doesn't contain tallow but is triple milled and a 250g bar lasts between 3-4 months used every day in the shower.

I not really well up on ingredients in shaving soaps but of the soaps I own my best performers contain tallow, maybe it just suits my skin or perhaps I haven't tried enough of the latest vegetal or vegan soaps.
 
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