EJ 3ONE6 or Muhle Rocca. A tentative comparison.

I said it feels like MIM in the hand, by which I mean it feels lighter than stainless steel machined from billet, particularly the base plate. I've held a 3ONE6 and a ASD2 in my hand, and the Rocca looks and feels uncannily similar. It was me thinking out loud is all. The Game Changer and 3ONE6 each weigh 30g. The Rocca head is supposed to weigh 30g. I don't have scales suitable for weighing them but the Rocca base plate appears to have much more mass then either the 3ONE6 or Game Changer. As I say I was just thinking out loud and expressing my observations. And I did so 'tentatively'.

Precision of lack of it doesn't necessarily prove or disprove anything. Both the ASD2 snd 3ONE6 are pretty precise and cleanly made.
Rocca base plate is 25.27g. Base plate and top cap together are 38.78g.
 
I said it feels like MIM in the hand, by which I mean it feels lighter than stainless steel machined from billet, particularly the base plate. I've held a 3ONE6 and a ASD2 in my hand, and the Rocca looks and feels uncannily similar. It was me thinking out loud is all. The Game Changer and 3ONE6 each weigh 30g. The Rocca head is supposed to weigh 30g. I don't have scales suitable for weighing them but the Rocca base plate appears to have much more mass then either the 3ONE6 or Game Changer. As I say I was just thinking out loud and expressing my observations. And I did so 'tentatively'.

Precision of lack of it doesn't necessarily prove or disprove anything. Both the ASD2 snd 3ONE6 are pretty precise and cleanly made.
Oh I see, my mistake then.... my apologies for misreading your post.
 
FYI EJ 3one6 vs Rocca v4.0 R94 .................................................................... Sorry Edwin Jagger you've lost against the Muhle Rocca

 
FYI EJ 3one6 vs Rocca v4.0 R94 .................................................................... Sorry Edwin Jagger you've lost against the Muhle Rocca

I've not clicked on the link yet.... There's text where someone is talking about oiling up their banjo neck.... Is this link safe for work?
 
This coming Thursday until early December. With no sunshine this time, I'll have to work out how to keep the kids amused
Maybe. Apparently Gove has "sort of" said that if the R-rate isn't <1 (not even 1) by 2/12, then it will go on. As this looks to be an everlasting and foolish treadmill of lockdowns and respites, you might be keeping the kids amused for rather longer.
 
1st shave with the Rocca V4. I have the R96 I think with the black handle. I'm going to compare it against the Edwin Jagger 3ONE6 throughout because they are similar, plenty folks have asked on Forums how they compare, and there's few if any direct comparisons. I must point out right here that I have used the 3ONE6 a lot, and this is my first impression of the Rocca V4, so my findings can be considered tentative and subject to change.

First off the two razors feel quite different in the hand. Regardless of specs (I believe both heads weigh 30g but don't have scales to confirm that), the 3ONE6 feels lighter and more nimble. It feels sports car like. Not that the Rocca is heavy or cumbersome. It is not. Build quality is very nice on both. The Rocca handle feels very nice on the 3ONE6 head so I will shave with that combo at some point. The 3ONE6 handle is thin and although fit for purpose, just feels wrong. Visually at least, the Rocca has less blade gap. Visually blade exposure is hard to compare.

The shave. I found the Rocca easy to shave with right out the box. No problems with weight of shave angles. With only 1 shave in, I found the razor felt best at the neutral angle, and had no dramas experimenting either side of that, shallow or steep. The 3ONE6 requires more attention. It is capable of smooth shaves but come off the 'just right' and it either losses efficiency, gets rough as hell, or it can bite big time. Get skin in that big gap and puckering of anus will occur rapido. Get it right and the 3ONE6 can shave smooth and comfortable against the grain.The Rocca had no such drama. It also felt that it would not shave as smooth as the 3ONE6 against the grain, although it's not painfully rough at all. I'd say for smooth and comfortable ATG the 3ONE6 has the edge, with the caveats mentioned above.

The Rocca is plenty efficient sitting between the R89 and R41, but closer to the R41. It feels like it has more blade exposure than the 3ONE6 but to me the 3ONE6 is more efficient. The Rocca feels more aggressive though. This smooth/rough thing, which is very subjective...The Rocca sounds rougher than it feels, if that makes sense. The 3ONE6 sounds smoother, and to me feels it when the stars align.

I'm sitting here thinking the 3ONE6 is the one I will keep. It has some strange character that I wouldn't normally tolerate, but somehow find the 3ONE6 rather charming because of them. The Rocca feels more generic and less interesting but not a bad razor. It is efficient, a fairly big step up from the R89, well made and fairly smooth. I'd say anyone who loves the end result using a R41 but couldn't handle the roughness, may well like this razor.

I acknowledge once more that this is my first use of the Rocca and my findings might change over time. One more thing, again tentatively. Muhle claim the V4 is CNC produced. I'm not disputing that but it looks and feels to me very much like a MIM stainless head. I'm wondering if the head is MIM made and then ''trimmed'' to spec on a CNC machine. Is that even possible or financially viable? I have no idea.

Good to see a comparison - thank you. The Rocca V4 took Muhle a long time to get it right, but their iterative design process hit the mark in the end. The Rocca is one of my favourite shavers, it hits the sweet spot in terms of efficiency, smoothness and blade feel; it is beautifully balanced; the birch bark is the most tactile handle I have used on a razor and the razors voice sings as it shaves...a veritable tour de force...
 
you might be keeping the kids amused for rather longer.
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I read a great review on SCNHG.
It makes evident the points of closeness, but especially those of discord, between the two cousins.
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Where the German a less wide and linear plane of support, on the contrary the English follows the logic that was then taken up by Henson V1.
A wide base, where also the guard is designed to facilitate the support and easily maintain the angle.
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So a different behavior:
• more comfortable Edwin Jagger 3ONE6
• more performing Muhle Rocca R96
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