I'm taking a guess that Frankie's coat had shoulder pads that made it about twice as wide as that young man's.I don't know, the biker gloves really set the tone for this outfit.
Bow Ties. Yes or No?
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It sure did! Not sure if that qualifies as a bow tie though. What were those things called anyway?
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My father was a frequent wearer of bow ties, but only those you tie yourself; they suited him well. I tried them a few times, but I usually looked like a waiter or used car salesman and thus gave up. Today I only wear one for black-tie, but I do struggle to tie one neatly. Some chaps seem suited to bow ties, but on many others they look like an affectation.
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For evening wear, a regular collar for me, starched shirt, yellow gold front studs and yellow gold cuff links. I've always thought a wing collar borders on being pretentious, but many chaps wear them. I also prefer a black silk waistcoat to a cummerbund; perhaps that's my inner pretentiousness showing itself. For white tie, however, I believe a wing collar is de rigeur; I run out of the room backwards when anyone mentions white tie.
I can just image the reception you'd get in Glasgow wearing one today - let alone the 50's.
I do have a leather coat - and a bow tie, perhaps I'll try the combination at my retirement party.
We called those " Western Gambler " or " Maverick " style Frankie, although I don't really know if they have, or had, a correct name. Yeah, give that combo a go Rob, you could term it " Shaft Revisited " perhaps. I'm sure you could carry it off.
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Oddly, a year to the day after I started this thread my 9 year old wore a bow tie to her school disco yesterday!
I've dug out a couple of photos of me wearing them (and one after the end of a long evening in a before -after kind of way).
I've dug out a couple of photos of me wearing them (and one after the end of a long evening in a before -after kind of way).
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I have a very nice dinner suit for black tie events at the golf club. I do not wear it often enough for me to bother with a self tie bow tie so it's a pre tied one for me. I prefer slim ones to the huge things on offer. Normal collar though always. Wing collar is for white tie and a white jacket is for tropical occasions. Shawl collar,black oxfords, black socks, braces and normal collar shirt with black studs. Works for the few events I wear mine to.
I have several different black ties (single-ended, double-ended, and swallowtail) for evening dress, mostly acquired when I attended Mess dinners regularly. Always self-tied - a ready-tied bow is a solecism in the Officers Mess, and likely to prove costly when found out. I have an RAF bow tie, usually worn at joint functions, to annoy the Army. I also have a few day wear bow ties, but don't wear them often.
A friend of mine is an anaesthetist, and often wears bow ties because he thinks that doctors should look smart, and a bow tie doesn't fall foul of the control of infection polizei like standard ties.
A friend of mine is an anaesthetist, and often wears bow ties because he thinks that doctors should look smart, and a bow tie doesn't fall foul of the control of infection polizei like standard ties.
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Port'd out at 4 in the morning with an untied bow tie casually round the neck means you can project your internal Dean Martin, even if you only look like Guy.
A wing collar can work in some circumstances. I usually wear a normal turn down collar marcella dress shirt with self-tied bow tie (I prefer the slimmer ones too), shawl collar jacket, and black patent dress shoes. I also have a collarless marcella shirt and a proper stiff wing collar - 2.25 inches tall and looks very well with my old double-breasted dinner jacket for the right occasion. A bugger to clean and starch, though.
Skinny, floppy-winged collars invariably look dreadful, and are often to be found with those other evening dress abominations, the back-patterned shirt, and the matching non-black tie and handkerchief.
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Don't forget the bow in club colors, assuming one has a club.