A Shave & A Brighter Disposition

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As cute as the movie is, the shooting scenes are total bonafide, Moroccan leather bound BS. :rolleyes: For my European friends I am posting this video for historical educational purposes. As a note, after 1 to 2 shots with old time blackpowder rounds you wouldn't have been able to see beyond a few feet in a dank fetid cantina. As well, they didn't "fan" revolvers then. A fine movie, albeit with a great stretch on historical license...;)


On another note, in the 19th century some of the best blackpowder was actually made in England:

http://www.oldindustry.org/ShotTowers/local_history_river_crane.pdf
 
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As cute as the movie is, the shooting scenes are total bonafide, Moroccan leather bound BS. :rolleyes: For my European friends I am posting this video for historical educational purposes. As a note, after 1 to 2 shots with old time blackpowder rounds you wouldn't have been able to see beyond a few feet in a dank fetid cantina. As well, they didn't "fan" revolvers then. A fine movie, albeit with a great stretch on historical license...;)


On another note, in the 19th century some of the best blackpowder was actually made in England:

http://www.oldindustry.org/ShotTowers/local_history_river_crane.pdf
Next you're going to tell us that pistols weren't accurate enough back then to be able to shoot individual fingers off at 25 yards? ;)

My pet peeve in movies is engine/blaster/explosion noise in the vacuum of space.
 
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Next you're going to tell us that pistols weren't accurate enough back then to be able to shoot individual fingers off at 25 yards? ;) ...
Yes, lack of global warming then caused less bullet yaw. :p;)

...My pet peeve in movies is engine/blaster/explosion noise in the vacuum of space.
Yep. Only 2001 A Space Odyssey did it right. :) Ever notice how lethal arrows are in movies? No one ever screams like Hell or takes time to die. Hollywood must dip the arrowheads in Curare. :rolleyes:
 
I have shot vintage (original) Colt 45 black powder single action pistols. (I have been a hobby gunsmith for 40 years) Pistols of that vintage were very short range firearms. 4" groups at 20 meters was a particularly accurate pistol. Most real gunfights were at about 10 feet or less*. Shooting fingers off at 25 meters? Not a chance. Great movie though!
And yes, a few shots with black powder inside a bar and you wouldn't be able to see anybody.

*I completed a comprehensive defensive handgun course at Front Sight Firearms Training Centre in Nevada, USA. They taught this old geezer to draw from concealed (under a jacket) and put two rounds of full metal jacket in a silhouette target in 0.9 seconds. I used my own 1911 in .45 acp. We were told that real gunfights still usually happen at 10 feet or less. My own 1911 is a heavily modified match pistol. It isn't accurate enough to do that stunt.
 
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I've only ever shot a couple of 'real' pistols from my days when I worked with the army. A Glock 9mm which was just ridiculously easy to use, given that all I had to do was do as I was told by the range master, and put some holes in a piece of paper, and at another range session, a Desert Eagle .50 cal auto which broke after 4, surprisingly controllable, shots. Other than that I used to do some club level air pistol target stuff when I was in Air Cadets, and I have a 177 CO2 pistol for the kids to plink with.

I'd love to have a go with a sorted 1911, and obviously a Colt 45 would be a really interesting experience.
 
The highlight of the trip for me happened at lunch on day 3. We were told "Starting at 12:30 there will be full auto rifles available for you to shoot on range #1. Ammo is available for purchase at the range." Gulped down some chow and made a beeline for range #1. There was a smorgasbord of full autos. Uzis, H&Ks, M16s, and several others I can't remember, and a real, vintage Thompson, built in 1946. I shot the Thompson. A lot.
Edit: @Rob998 If you ever get to Thunder Bay in Northern Ontario, Canada, I'll take you to our indoor club range, and you can shoot mine.
 
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