@Blademonkey P. - otters - no go - protected species in Europe - much like badgers - what about seal or penguin tallow? There are loads of them - we might have marketing issues though? The public - are for some reason - a bit squeamish about the animals that are killed in their name. Never understood why. What about walrus? There is a load of blubber going on there? Again marketing problems. Or maybe not? - we could all do it together - do a crowd funding thing - the honest shaving soap tallow company - who's with me? - ha ha - I.