shaving expert please!/shaving while in the shower

TobyC said:
Referring to others as "Little men" is. Trying to make yourself feel big by belittling others.

First step is to admit that you have a problem.
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I figured you still wanted to talk about your feelings. I'll hold your hand and we can walk through it together.

As you feel so triggered about some men being “little”, you have to ask yourself first, why do you feel little? Do you think you're small physically, mentally, or emotionally? Or which of those 3 triggers you the most? Knowing where you feel most small will answer where your biggest insecurities are and not get so emotional about other people's words and ways of doing things. That is your first step to becoming a ‘bigger man'.
 
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Len said:
I figured you still wanted to talk about your feelings. I'll hold your hand and we can walk through it together.

As you feel so triggered about some men being “little”, you have to ask yourself first, why do you feel little? Do you think you're small physically, mentally, or emotionally? Or which of those 3 triggers you the most? Knowing where you feel most small will answer where your biggest insecurities are and not get so emotional about other people's words and ways of doing things. That is your first step to becoming a ‘bigger man'.
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This is hard for you isn't it?
 
Len said:
I have experience both using lather, and not. Without, the sense of touch is increased to the point of knowing by touch how to adjust the use of the razor at different contours of the face. Much of this sense is lost with the use of a buffer like lather. Likewise, going lather-less actually reduces the chance of nicks or irritation, because being slightly less slick allows the blade to slow down just enough to allow for greater control. More control, heightened awareness, and for those with experience of their technique, safer.

That almost shiny post shave feeling with lather is silkier, but is almost like a feminine softness. Lather-less post shave is also smooth and clean but lacking the feminine, silky sheen. In that department, I guess it depends on what type of a man you are for what you prefer.
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Trying to get back on topic...

Paragraph one of this is rubbish. Sorry. Slowing down the blade and giving you more control... can't recall any posters saying their razor slipped on their face and took an eyebrow off.
 
I've read the OP again and he never really specifically mentions shaving without lather. Just that hair would be like ultra saturated when in the shower. Or am i missing something..?

I am also of the opinion, that the minute you would spent outside the shower before applying lather doesn't make a difference. At least not significant.

When talking no lather... Is this really a discussion we want to get into? :D

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Dansco said:
Paragraph one of this is rubbish. Sorry. Slowing down the blade and giving you more control... can't recall any posters saying their razor slipped on their face and took an eyebrow off.
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A dry shave will slow down the blade even more, but due to almost zero lubrication, it is likely to skip. The blade is also likely to skip with a lather-less wet shave at the sink, as there is less running water and humidity than in the shower. Lubrication, in this case, water, and to a greater extent, soap, does in fact make things more slippery (more slippery, less control, but some amount is required for a proper glide), as hard as it may be for some people to comprehend.

G_man said:
I've read the OP again and he never really specifically mentions shaving without lather. Just that hair would be like ultra saturated when in the shower. Or am i missing something..?

I am also of the opinion, that the minute you would spent outside the shower before applying lather doesn't make a difference. At least not significant.
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It does make a difference, both in my experience and in the experience of the OP. What is your experience? Oh wait... :rolleyes: The reason it does is that your face is almost constantly under running water and there is a high level of humidity. Both are almost instantly lost once you step out of the shower.

Now I am assuming the OP is not using lather (could be wrong), because when one is using lather, there really isn't much difference between the slickness or safety of the shave in or out of the shower, but there is a big difference without lather. Not only this, but the OP is asking about products he IS NOT USING (soap/cream [Proraso], canned gel [Gillette], and Aloe) to replicate the quality of shave he is getting in the shower. Really simple deduction here...
 
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Len said:
A dry shave will slow down the blade even more, but due to almost zero lubrication, it is likely to skip. The blade is also likely to skip with a lather-less wet shave at the sink, as there is less running water and humidity than in the shower. Lubrication, in this case, water, and to a greater extent, soap, does in fact make things more slippery (more slippery, less control, but some amount is required for a proper glide), as hard as it may be for some people to comprehend...
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It does make a difference, both in my experience and in the experience of the OP. What is your experience? Oh wait... :rolleyes: The reason it does is that your face is almost constantly under running water and there is a high level of humidity.
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Both are almost instantly lost once you step out of the shower...
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Now I am assuming the OP is not using lather (could be wrong), because when one is using lather, there really isn't much difference between the slickness or safety of the shave in or out of the shower, but there is a big difference without lather. Not only this, but the OP is asking about products he IS NOT USING (soap/cream [Proraso], canned gel [Gillette], and Aloe) to replicate the quality of shave he is getting in the shower. Really simple deduction here...
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Uh, OK.
 
Helveticum said:
Our boy Len here just bumped his smooth shower shaven head into the old school TSR. It's alright Lenny, you'll get there eventually, as you grow up just a wee bit.
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No worries, I have kids. I'm used to seeing them throwing tantrums and going off subject when the argument is lost... (To their credit, at least children can understand that steam disperses the moment the shower curtain is opened, or that the more slippery something is, the less control one has. :eek:)

It's known to happen to adults too when there is a lack of experience. Take our boy Bogeyman above, he's got so worked up he couldn't tell my sarcasm when it smacked him in the mouth. o_O
 
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Len said:
A dry shave will slow down the blade even more, but due to almost zero lubrication, it is likely to skip. The blade is also likely to skip with a lather-less wet shave at the sink, as there is less running water and humidity than in the shower. Lubrication, in this case, water, and to a greater extent, soap, does in fact make things more slippery (more slippery, less control, but some amount is required for a proper glide), as hard as it may be for some people to comprehend.

Really simple deduction here...
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Again, what you're saying is true, I guess. But rubbish nonetheless.

As you mention, some "slipperiness" is required for a proper glide. I would argue the optimum lubrication is provided by soap, not water. Water on its own is usable - some people do shave without soap - but its not the norm. Most people find the extra lubrication from lather provides a better shave. Which it does.

Kinda seems like you might only be able to make simple deductions...
 
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