Phoenix & Beau lathering problem

I have just had a terrific shave tonight but decided to face lather with the Citra Royale instead of my usual bowl lathering. I used my Rod Neep 30mm barrel brush which worked up enough great lather for a 3+ pass shave. I still haven't sorted out the problem with bowl lathering using this soap but my faith in it has been fully restored.
 
Load heavy and add water gradually once you've got a good covering on your face if you face lather. P&B is oil spill slick if you dial it in well. I agree with Benz3ne that this is one soap that doesn't need blooming.
 
Hi @colina, sorry I hadn't seen this sooner. Glad you've sorted your face lathering out now :) and some excellent advice posted above.

A few pointers from me, if that's ok:
  1. Blooming isn't essential but (for me) I prefer to have my soap blooming whilst I shower. That water forms an important part of my pre-shave (where I rub it in to my skin) and helps the lather come forth and explode even sooner. N.B As mentioned above, Albion is our softest soap (by some way) and blooming isn't as necessary (for me, at least) when compared to our other soaps
  2. It's extremely important, post-shave to rinse your jar out with cold water, invert and then allow to dry out for a few hours. This will do a couple of things; 1) it will help keep your soap firmer (particularly Albion) and 2) your soap will last longer / won't spoil so readily. N.b. our soaps are assessed by our chemist to have a shelf life of 12-months from their first use.
My preference for some time has been to face lather; I enjoy the extra exfoliation my skin gets and just enjoy building my lather in this manner.

If you hadn't seen it I've popped a 'How To: Lather' video on our YouTube channel, you can see it here -
Best regards and happy shaving.

Kerry.
 
Interesting comment there about the shelf life of a soap. The only soap that I have ever heard going bad is Cella and I don't know how long after first use. I have a few soaps that are in used for more than a year a none is showing any signs of going bad. I do make sure they dry properly every time I use them though.
 
Merkurologist said:
Interesting comment there about the shelf life of a soap. The only soap that I have ever heard going bad is Cella and I don't know how long after first use. I have a few soaps that are in used for more than a year a none is showing any signs of going bad. I do make sure they dry properly every time I use them though.
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I bought the famous 1 kg brick of Cella, say your years ago... It went a bit 'rusty' (darker colour) after a couple of years.. I still have a cake in a wooden case... and it still is amazing. Scent, performance, protection remain the same as the same as the first day..

As for soaps life.. I really hope it's not too...strict a detail... think I have... well, many...:D
 
Merkurologist said:
Interesting comment there about the shelf life of a soap. The only soap that I have ever heard going bad is Cella and I don't know how long after first use. I have a few soaps that are in used for more than a year a none is showing any signs of going bad. I do make sure they dry properly every time I use them though.
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I bought the famous 1 kg brick of Cella, say four years ago... It went a bit 'rusty' (darker colour) after a couple of years.. I still have a cake in a wooden case... and it still is amazing. Scent, performance, protection remain the same as the same as the first day..

As for soaps life.. I really hope it's not too...strict a detail... think I have... well, many...:D
 
We're obliged by law to have to display the 'period after opening' symbol and the 12 months is our chemists assessment as to how long the soap will "stay good" for. That said, I have prototype Phoenix and Beau soaps that are well over two years old and they're going great guns :).

Cheers,

Kerry.
 
Very many thanks for the reply Kerry. It's been very helpful. I'm pleased to report that I'm creating good lather from both the Spitfire & Citra Royale soaps on a regular basis these days and am very pleased with them. Bay Rum & Albion are next on the hit list!
 
phoenixandbeau said:
We're obliged by law to have to display the 'period after opening' symbol and the 12 months is our chemists assessment as to how long the soap will "stay good" for.
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Are you able to define "stay good"? Which part of the soap's characteristics deteriorate? From what I have read, heat and ultraviolet light cause deterioration so keeping in a dark and cool place is recommended. 3 years seems to be the life expectancy of soaps.
 
@invicta I would say primarily the soaps consistency. Heat and light affect our soaps like any others and our FAQ says this - "How should I care for my Phoenix and Beau soap?

1. Rinse your soap each time after use with cold water.

2. Invert the jar (or whichever vessel you've decanted it in to) and allow it to breath and dry for a good few hours before you, in the case of your jar, re-lid and turn the right way up again. If you're using one of our samples or "portions" of one of our 60g soaps and have used a shaving bowl or mug, the same applies. In essence, the soap should be allowed to breath and dry and not be sat in moisture.

3. Like any handmade soap ours doesn't like to be exposed to too high an ambient temperature. If it's hot where you live please try and keep your soap somewhere cool and dry and don't expose it to direct sunlight.
Also, we add no preservatives to our soaps which will have an impact on shelf life."

Kind regards,

Kerry.
 
phoenixandbeau said:
We're obliged by law to have to display the 'period after opening' symbol and the 12 months is our chemists assessment as to how long the soap will "stay good" for. That said, I have prototype Phoenix and Beau soaps that are well over two years old and they're going great guns :).

Cheers,

Kerry.
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+ 1..;)..I Was One of You're 1st Testers..I Still have a Bit Left & its as Fresh as the Day You Made it..Any One that Cant Lather Youre Fantastic Soap..Well..They Probably Watch Coronation Street & East Benders..:eek:

In Other Words..Nae Brain Cells..:D

Billy
 
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